MFK's lost people

[tyl089]

Let it be known, I have a zero tolerance for racism on MFK. I do not care how old you are... Racism is racism.

Thank you. That's why i love this site. seen too much of other sites from anywhere where people just rant and rave and everyother poster seem to be a racist bigot. Life's too short about hating on people just because of their race; besides, you never know, when you need blood for a surgery, and just happend the blood that saves you came from someone from another race or ethnicity.

 

[Nova 8]

I guess I am getting older (and I sound like it), but this was only about 10 years ago. Has that much changed in 10 years? Can we (anyone) not lay down the law?

Being 21, I grew up as the leniency crap came in, it is absolute BS. All these hoodlomes running the streets at age 14-16 cause their parents never gave them a good crack across the arse. I have had personally problems with kids like this, attacking my brother, but wont go into details as it will not be viewed so nicely by others on the forum. I am with rallysman on this one, if you join a public forum, you get punished as the general public on the forum. Besides there is no real permanate recoil by him getting banned except he's not allowed on, how does that really affect him, probably not much. How does it affect us, alot, the less BS on the boards the better. lenient rules lead to lenient behavour, there is a middle level and for each kid its different.

Work..........that's something that a lot of people should try.

Now rallysman, what do you mean by this? Work can help straighten people out, but what type of work. My mum is a nurse and I can tell you, going to her work when I was young and doing work experiance was alot harder then any physical work I have done in my entire life. Have you ever watched someone your own age (I was 15) die slowly in hospital from cancer, that is hard - and life changing.

 

[ewurm]

I just am against the "permamanent" factor.

Sorry to be back on this, guys...

Officially, it's seven years. Oddball hath ruled it so. As of right now, he can come back when he is 21. I don't think Clarke is a bad kid. I think he doesn't listen, has no repsect for authority, and has no manners. He also has a tough time with right and wrong, a byproduct of poor parenting.

 

[rallysman]

Now rallysman, what do you mean by this? Work can help straighten people out, but what type of work. My mum is a nurse and I can tell you, going to her work when I was young and doing work experiance was alot harder then any physical work I have done in my entire life. Have you ever watched someone your own age (I was 15) die slowly in hospital from cancer, that is hard - and life changing.

Any type of work that can teach work ethic. Work is work. Physical labor, mental labor, all teaches something.

I've had several different jobs. I started working in fields, switched to retail, then funeral services in college, and now I'm the clinical engineer for a critical access hospital. I know that mental work is extremely demanding (I do it every day), but any type of work can teach a valuable lesson.

 

[Nova 8]

Any type of work that can teach work ethic. Work is work. Physical labor, mental labor, all teaches something.

I've had several different jobs. I started working in fields, switched to retail, then funeral services in college, and now I'm the clinical engineer for a critical access hospital. I know that mental work is extremely demanding (I do it every day), but any type of work can teach a valuable lesson.

Good, I have seen many kids sent off to try their hand at physical labour as a way to straighten them out, when really they need the mental shock of working and not the physical labour.

 

[Miguel]

I must be very old, then.. I also was a harsh guy, a harsh father. It gets us nowhere.

Forget about that kid ( he probbaly does not give a **** and has not learnt the lesson, since he is in another forum, as someone said, making an ass of himself )....

The point is that I insist on treating kids as kids ( and whichever way you put it, 14 is kid ) and that entails not treating them, nor demanding from them, the same respect of rules that one can demand from an adult.

Life will, soon enough, turn them into adults. We don't need to push them. Let children be chidren. The more they err ( with guidance , of course , and that is what a temp banishment could be ) , the better men they will be. IMO.

 

[ewurm]

I would have to argue that treating more like a child might be better for him, but we're not his parents. We look out for what's best for the board. There are 20,000 members and only a select few ever get repeated warnings. The trouble makers are always a select few because they won't listen.

 

[me_wee_todded]

well they seem to think here that working will turn you into s better man.
my dad started working when he was 14 in an oilfield. he saw a man lose his hand.
My father is honestly not a good man. he is quick to yell and quick to hit.

Now rallysman you may think i might have deserved this...seeing you uprbringing."if i did something i wasnt supposed to i was punished"
well what if you didnt want anymore food that your dad had cooked because you were already full on it.

he says"eat some more brisket" i say "no thanks. Im full"
after that he gets up and starts yelling at me. calling me "ungrateful" "worthless" "retarded because you can t do what you're told"
i was 13 when this happened
I dont need mental shock from labor.I get it from living at my house.
The mental shock leads to cold heartless men.

 

[me_wee_todded]

I would have to argue that treating more like a child might be better for him, but we're not his parents. We look out for what's best for the board. There are 20,000 members and only a select few ever get repeated warnings. The trouble makers are always a select few because they won't listen.

I understand that. But his level of maturity is not even close to any of ours.
BEACUSE HES 14.
I think some of you people have forgotten what its like to be that age.
Personally i think its one of the toughest ages.
you feel like you get s*** from everyone.and then maybe one place you feel that you are accepted...you get s***
Eventually you snap and you fight back.

this is just what he did. he fought back and lost.

 

[rallysman]

I understand that. But his level of maturity is not even close to any of ours.
BEACUSE HES 14.
I think some of you people have forgotten what its like to be that age.
Personally i think its one of the toughest ages.
you feel like you get s*** from everyone.and then maybe one place you feel that you are accepted...you get s***
Eventually you snap and you fight back.

this is just what he did. he fought back and lost.

But when is enough enough?! How many warnings should we give? Should we sacrifice the integrity of the board because someone is underdeveloped and likes to cock off?

If you can't see how flawed that is then I don't know what else to say. Yes, he's a kid, and kids will be kids, but this is a fish board! Being banned here will have absolutely no negative impact on his childhood. It might even help a little.
What's your explanation for him going to a sister site and causing problems similar to what was here? It shows me that he really doesn't care and was a troll by definition.

On a side note, I'm sorry you've have it rough. While what you've gone through is unacceptable and difficult to fathom, it seems as if you've got a decent head on your shoulders by the way you're presenting your case. I never said that doing work makes you better, but it DOES teach responsibility.