thanks driftwood, yeah i really hope i am able to get this under control too, so far it is just him that has these symptoms so i don't think it is anything contagious, and i ended up not having any money to go out and get new meds yet, so i went ahead and started treatment with the parasite clear before i left friday and will get the antibiotics (hopefully petsmart has them...) when i get back in town and get paid on Tuesday... (fingers crossed, maybe it will look all better when i get back monday, doubt it but one can hope...)