I agree with Fishdog.. Go Hystrix if you aren't planning to go WAY wider than a 18" wide tank for awhile..
Trevinoboy, like most of your advice, you have no clue what you''re saying at all...you have no clue what a teacup IS...usually, teacups ARE retics or cheap peru rays...and why would you experiment with tankmates when the search option brings out many threads with LISTS of suitable tankmates...trevinoboy;3378571; said:look if you are looking for a starter ray, like if its going to be your first ray, i would recommend a teacup. they are very cheap in price and you can experiment with them, and when i mean experiment is check what fishes he is compatible with, then you can go for a motoro or a flower or even a reticulat stingray.
That tank cant even house one ray for long let alone 3 or 4, and why would you recommend an rtc for a tank that smallsushiray;3377225; said:rays are great! I suggest getting 3-4 pups. + a baby shark (ones that look like a shark!), a red tail catfish maybe a gar a datnoid a black ghost (knifer)! go crazy!
your advice is almost as bad as trevinoboy'sIffrat;3377385; said:please tell me your just tolling .. this is one of the dumbest things i have ever seen on here
Gar, RTC, ANY SINGLE RAY, and some dats are all to large for that tank for life .. let alone many of each ...


trevinoboy;3378571; said:look if you are looking for a starter ray, like if its going to be your first ray, i would recommend a teacup. they are very cheap in price and you can experiment with them, and when i mean experiment is check what fishes he is compatible with, then you can go for a motoro or a flower or even a reticulat stingray.
FishDog;3378471; said:Hystrix are the way to go cause they stay smaller. Reticulatus stay smaller as well but they are more challenging to get acclimated. You could get by with a 24" wide tank for hystrix if you have a good filtration system. By good I mean high turnover and extra water volume that a sump has to offer. Other ray species you need to go up to a 36" tank for life.
Catfish Keeper;3378762; said:Looked up this ray and liked it. I think this would be my best bet. I want to get a small one, that I could house in my tank for 2-3 years, then upgrade. Where can these be obtained. Only seen motoros in my lfs. Am I going to have to order online?
FishDog;3378858; said:PM Hystrix and Ray777. They have some 6-8" ones right now for sale around $200. Hystrix are not imported very often and the two guys I mentioned have had theres long enough that they are healthy and would make awesome starters for your tank. I can't stress enough about making sure your tank is fully cycled and it has ample filtration. You need big canister or sump filtration. Hang on the back filters are a waste on time unless you are just using them for mechanical filters.
FishDog;3378858; said:PM Hystrix and Ray777. They have some 6-8" ones right now for sale around $200. Hystrix are not imported very often and the two guys I mentioned have had theres long enough that they are healthy and would make awesome starters for your tank. I can't stress enough about making sure your tank is fully cycled and it has ample filtration. You need big canister or sump filtration. Hang on the back filters are a waste on time unless you are just using them for mechanical filters.