Mixed Centrals and Africans tank

[tiger15]

Yes, my Lwanda males all hit 6 inch size. I have no problem housing alto comp with my CA/SA, here is an earlier video of my 75g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsTDjx0E1pg Unfortunately, I lost the entire colony of comp to chemical poisoning and have to start all over.

Your choice of fish makes a difference whether the mix will work or not. For the large CA/SA, I only picked the most peaceful CA/SA like Green Terror, Vieja and Thorichthys species. For small Africans, I picked the mildly aggressive haps and Tangs and avoid Mbuna. For big fish I keep single males only to avoid pairing aggression. For dimulative Tangs, I keep colonies that hide and breed in the rock caves. Interestingly, the big guys have acclimated to and don't eat the fry which gradually emerged from the caves and compete boldly for food side by side with the big guys. The CA/SA, haps and Tangs each pick fight among their own kind, and occasionaly the Haps pick fight with CA/SA, but never the other way around. It's amazing to see a 5 inch Eureka Peacock chase an 11 inch Sysnpillum.

 

[richkid]

I have mixed them before with mixed results. In my 125 I have a paratilapia polleni in w a jag an O and a Lois. They are fine. The polleni does harass the Lois. I also mixed jewels w smaller ca or juvies and it always ends up poorly with the jewels punishing the new worlds. I had some mbuna in w my flowerhorn for a long time till eventually he began eating them. But that is just a size not continent issue. I had my buttikoferi also killing mbuna. So I think it depends on the species and size differences and also on the temperament of the individual fish as well.


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[Jag0eats0xxxTroll]

I have mixed Africans, Madagascans, South and Central Americans for decades, some work well, some don't.
At the moment, I have Herichthys bocourti with Paratilapia and Paretroplus, the tanganikan Ctenochromis with S Americans, xCichlasoma ornatum, Acarichthys heckelli, and Guianacara, and the African Barombi mbo species, Saratherodaon linnelli as dither/targetswith xCichlasoma festae.

wow you really went to town with the mixing. I wont knock it especially coming from you. super niceee

 

[Jag0eats0xxxTroll]

Once upon a time I mixed mbuna of various sizes (1-7 inches) with my all my juvie (less than 3 inches) CA cichlids I had at the time in a 180 gallon. A red devil, a midas, both of my flowerhorns, a blood parrot, a jack dempsey, and a raphael catfish. The mbuna picked on them constantly. One day, about a month after adding them, the bigger flowerhorn (4 inches by then) snapped and decided to fight the biggest mbuna (a 7 inch blue zebra). They locked lips, and he proceeded to rip the lips off the mbuna, then gut it. I caught the flowerhorn and put him in the sump, then pulled the dead blue zebra out. Everybody was hiding in the rocks from me moving the stuff around. Came downstairs the next morning to find the central americans all sitting on the bottom with morbidly obese looking guts and every single mbuna floating without a gut... They learn fast...

smh ,,,and I had someone tell me "don't mix Africans with the new world cichlids the Africans are too fast for them blaa blaaa blaa.

 

[viejafish]

Pollleni, flowerhorn, Jag, buttifoferi, Midas and mbuna are tope 10 most aggressive cichlids and no wonder mixing them don't work. I had a crazy Polleni that chased every fish in the tank all day long. My solitary FH cracked the heater because he couldn't tolerate his own reflection. My Mbuna tank brecame a protracted gladiators tank until one fish ruled. Those are bad community fish no matter what you mix them with.

 

[viejafish]

smh ,,,and I had someone tell me "don't mix Africans with the new world cichlids the Africans are too fast for them blaa blaaa blaa.

IME, Mbuna would out match any CA/SA of equal size. I am surprised to read that a 4 inch FH can defeat and kill a 7 inch Zebra. Zebra has teeth on their lips and can tear off the mouth of FH, not the other way around. I once had a 6 inch Melanochromis chikopae that locked jaw with an 8 inch Green Terror for hours and won and the GT learned the lesson and never came close to him

 

[Big Dave]

You see it all the time on this site. Years ago in my 8' 240 I had Motaguense, Lamp Cylindicus, Frontosa, Malawi Eyebiters, A Giant Gourami, and a Giraffe Catfish. When the big Eyebiter went into spawn mode he took over 7' of the 8' foot tank. Peacocks I found were just too woosy, some fish in whatever tank I had them in would harass them.

 

[Jag0eats0xxxTroll]

IME, Mbuna would out match any CA/SA of equal size. I am surprised to read that a 4 inch FH can defeat and kill a 7 inch Zebra. Zebra has teeth on their lips and can tear off the mouth of FH, not the other way around. I once had a 6 inch Melanochromis chikopae that locked jaw with an 8 inch Green Terror for hours and won and the GT learned the lesson and never came close to him

ok dude don't mbuna max out a little more than a quarter the size of your average jag,flowerhorn? also don't they tank years to hit close to max size. and equal size? that's like pitting a grown man who's 5,3" against a 5,3" 10 year old who's parents are 6,8". its cool that you have pride in your fish but make sense here this aint the david and goliath story as charming as it sounds. I could go to petland buy 5 half grown mbuna and feed them to my half grown jag as feeders . but im not that cruel

 

[Jag0eats0xxxTroll]

IME, Mbuna would out match any CA/SA of equal size. I am surprised to read that a 4 inch FH can defeat and kill a 7 inch Zebra. Zebra has teeth on their lips and can tear off the mouth of FH, not the other way around. I once had a 6 inch Melanochromis chikopae that locked jaw with an 8 inch Green Terror for hours and won and the GT learned the lesson and never came close to him

that's right NO REPLY cuz you know your little Africans hold a candle to my new world cichlids. when talkin African cichlids toughness the buttikoferi is the only fish that's name can even be brought up in the conversation though its not even a cichlid and even the toughest buttikoferi you can find gets made into fishcakes by the average dovii. please reply with something so I can make you look even more bad

 

[Crazy mike]

that's right NO REPLY cuz you know your little Africans hold a candle to my new world cichlids. when talkin African cichlids toughness the buttikoferi is the only fish that's name can even be brought up in the conversation though its not even a cichlid and even the toughest buttikoferi you can find gets made into fishcakes by the average dovii. please reply with something so I can make you look even more bad

Butti are cichlids though

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