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koop171;3477805; said:
Just saw that on yahoo. Seems like the UFC might be in the middle of a downward spiral. think of it In the past year or so.

Chuck gets killed over and over again
Matt Huges gets messed up and shouldn't fight again
Cro Cop sucked it up and won't fight anymore
they put Kimbo in TUF just for ratings.
Rampage quits b/c Dana is a dick about fights doing other things then fighting.
and the can't get Fedor to sign ANYTHING.

things don't look good over there.


Brock
GSP
Anderson Silva
Machida

They are doing pretty good.
 
hamato_yoshii;3479050;3479050 said:
BTW, Kimbo vs. Roy Nelson next week on TUF.
thats gona be crazy. kimbo gona THUMP!
 
hamato_yoshii;3479270; said:
Roy can still fight.
i think kimbo's gonna GET THUMPED


Kimbo would stand no chance at this point with Monson, whom he recently lost a close decision to. I feel bad that he has to fight at least a pretty good fighter so soon. I wish he could have more training first. Unless Dana has a fix in to keep ratings up :banhim:
 
finally got to watch the 2nd episode of TUF 10...that was ridiculous. the only real good points of McSweeney were his leg kicks, the time he knocked Wes down, the weak choke attempt and he didn't gas as fast, but he still did. I gave both rounds to Wes. I thought there was a possibility of a third round even though neither could really stand up anymore, lol, so I was sure when they said a decision was reached that it was going for Wes. I was very shocked and pissed.

Am I totally off? I mean, Wes had some good punches and took him down in both rounds. That and the fact that he didn't turn his back and run away like the other guy did, lol.
 
That fight was sad all around. I think in general McSweeney did better but he couldve done so much more. I dont care how tired I am if the guy who might prevent me from furthering my career is standing with his hands on his knees panting Im going to hit him.
 
I thought McSweeny was better by a lot.

I like Wes, but besides a couple of charges, I'm not sure he really did anything worthwhile.

This is what we are going to get through the first few rounds of these guys. Who has stamina and who doesn't. Then once those are weeded out, we will begin to see real fights.
 
how was he better? I just don't understand. You can't run away from someone, get taken down a few times and be better. Don't get me wrong, I don't think either deserved to win with their piss-poor conditioning, but McSweeney had pretty bad ground skills and was marginally better if that standing. If Wes would have had the stamina to keep his game plan going, he would have walked all over him. He was gassed half-way through the first round, lol. If McS doesn't improve his conditioning, he's going to lose in the next round, anyway...same for Wes if he had won.

aggression/octagon control - well, that was pretty sad. McS kept turning his back and running and he didn't capitalize hardly at all when Wes was gassed and he still had a little left. Both of them just basically stood there for half the fight. IDK if takedowns fit into this category, but Wes obviously had the advantage there.

striking - gave a SLIGHT edge to McS (maybe even just for the sake of argument)...think Wes would have won that if he hadn't gassed

grappling - who was on their back most of the time on the ground and who went for more submissions?


IDK, whatever, they both looked terrible and wouldn't go to the finale, anyway. It should have at least gone another round to see who wanted it more.
 
I agree that if Wes had stamina he would have won, but he didn't.

He really won the first few minutes of the fight, but McSweeny came on at the end, and landed more shots.

Same with the second round, McSweeny landed many more shots, and while he didn't capitalize with a KO when Wes was tired, he did still land kicks, and he threw some combo's.

Wes was dead in the second round, and some of the first. He couldn't have fought even if he wanted to, and that for me is enough to tip the scale for McSweeny. And thats if it was close, and I don't really think it was. What did the judges score it? 30-27 I think, right?
 
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