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xdragonxb0i;3551412; said:
i havnt read all of the pages, but why does thread talk mainly about kimbo slice?

Is anyone gonna watch the machida fight?
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:shakehead Really?

There are over 30 pages in this thread about mma. It is not a Kimbo thread. However, right now, the show that he is on, is the most popular show in mma tv history, so, we're gonna talk about it. There is tons of mma news and notes in this thread, feel free to comment on any of it.

BTW, there are always specific threads for mma events, so there is a UFC 104 thread in the lounge, that should have the Machida/Shogun discussion in it.
 
Stump;3552598; said:
I do too. However, I don't think he would win the second time either.
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I'm not sure. I have kind of painted myself into the corner in the sense that I have repeatedly said that I think Silva is ripe to be beaten, and I still think a big, strong guy like Hendo (more like Nate) can beat Silva. I think that Hendo may be a little past his prime now, and might not be able to pull it off, but I think that Nate can for sure.
 
hamato_yoshii;3553680; said:
I'm not sure. I have kind of painted myself into the corner in the sense that I have repeatedly said that I think Silva is ripe to be beaten, and I still think a big, strong guy like Hendo (more like Nate) can beat Silva. I think that Hendo may be a little past his prime now, and might not be able to pull it off, but I think that Nate can for sure.
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Nate has improved since they last fought, he's faster, stronger and his cardio is better. But I think he's the type of fighter that isn't well composed. When he gets hurt he'll crumble. Like in the first fight, he was doing good and had good take downs and controlled from the top but as soon as Anderson got on top and ate some punches he had nothing. I give him a slightly better chance because of his improved speed and stand up, but that's about it, he'll break if he loses the stand up fight. And unfortunately for him, he's gonna be standing up with one of the top 2-3 stand up fighters p4p

Dan has a better chance in a rematch because he's good at planning and learning from the first fight. Plus he's very well composed even when hurt, and is always a dangerous fighter no matter who he fights. But I think age is a factor. I feel like he's only 80 or 90% of the strong fighter he used to be. His best chance is to take it to the ground and controll Anderson for a decision win. The problem he faces is when it's on the feet and if he ends up on the bottom when it goes to the ground.

for both fighters to rematch Anderson, I say Anderson takes it again
 
svang55;3553905; said:
Nate has improved since they last fought, he's faster, stronger and his cardio is better. But I think he's the type of fighter that isn't well composed. When he gets hurt he'll crumble. Like in the first fight, he was doing good and had good take downs and controlled from the top but as soon as Anderson got on top and ate some punches he had nothing. I give him a slightly better chance because of his improved speed and stand up, but that's about it, he'll break if he loses the stand up fight. And unfortunately for him, he's gonna be standing up with one of the top 2-3 stand up fighters p4p

Dan has a better chance in a rematch because he's good at planning and learning from the first fight. Plus he's very well composed even when hurt, and is always a dangerous fighter no matter who he fights. But I think age is a factor. I feel like he's only 80 or 90% of the strong fighter he used to be. His best chance is to take it to the ground and controll Anderson for a decision win. The problem he faces is when it's on the feet and if he ends up on the bottom when it goes to the ground.

for both fighters to rematch Anderson, I say Anderson takes it again
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Good post. I disagree a little with the Nate thing as he has proved in the past, and he has an extensive resume, that he can take shots, and still keep going. I think he will be the one who will be able to stop Anderson, and it is because of the strategizing that his camp does with their fighters, and how successful they are.
I agree about Hendo, and I think that he can still take Silva down and try to out muscle him, but I'm just not sure he has enough left in the tank to get it done. I think he would still have a great chance, but not quite as sure as I once was.

All this is under the assumption though, that Hendo will get past Nate, who I think he will fight first, and I don't think that he will be able to do that. Nate is a tough match-up for Hendo at this stage of his career, and I think Nate will win that fight.
 
I can't wait for Anderson-Belfort. The speed of Belfort seems to catch a lot of fighters off guard and when he's on he is on.
 
hamato_yoshii;3553914; said:
Good post. I disagree a little with the Nate thing as he has proved in the past, and he has an extensive resume, that he can take shots, and still keep going. I think he will be the one who will be able to stop Anderson, and it is because of the strategizing that his camp does with their fighters, and how successful they are.
I agree about Hendo, and I think that he can still take Silva down and try to out muscle him, but I'm just not sure he has enough left in the tank to get it done. I think he would still have a great chance, but not quite as sure as I once was.

All this is under the assumption though, that Hendo will get past Nate, who I think he will fight first, and I don't think that he will be able to do that. Nate is a tough match-up for Hendo at this stage of his career, and I think Nate will win that fight.
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I give Nate props because he's been a beast since the lost to Anderson but he's still got something to prove to me. Losing to Anderson did good for him because this is the best I've seen him and I remember his debut in the UFC,............ totally different fighter. But again, he's fighting against A. Silva. I think he's the better wrestler than Anderson but he won't win on the ground, his best chance is to win a decision on the ground but needs to be on top, if he ends up on the bottom, we'll see a repeat. If it's a stand up fight, like I said, It's A. Silva he's fighting. I like Nate but I feel what I felt about Rich,............. good enough to beat everyone else in the division but just can't beat the one guy who is the champ.

digger;3553916; said:
I can't wait for Anderson-Belfort. The speed of Belfort seems to catch a lot of fighters off guard and when he's on he is on.
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Belfort is being so hyped up, he's not gonna be the guy to beat Anderson. He's always had a weak mentality and cardio. Although I like Vitor, always have, he will get embarrassed.
 
hamato_yoshii;3554275; said:
I think Belfort will be completely outclassed when he steps in with Anderson. As soon as he finds out he won't win in the first minute, Belfort will start to crumble.
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I hope not I like Belfort. I don't think he'll win but I hope it goes into deep water.
 
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