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I can't believe Torres got beat again, he has some of the most raw potential of anyone in mma.

He can pack some more weight on his his frame, maybe he should think about moving up.
 
pwmin;3953114; said:
nope, it's on versus

i can't believe you don't care to see any of those fights...5 of the top 10 bantamweights in the world are on that card. course, i probably wouldn't pay to watch it on ppv

i just saw all the results. there was only 3 fights that went to a decision. the rest were stoppages. sounds like it was an exciting event.

hamato_yoshii;3957824; said:
I can't believe Torres got beat again, he has some of the most raw potential of anyone in mma.

He can pack some more weight on his his frame, maybe he should think about moving up.

torres has been through a lot of battles. I always questioned wether he was THAT good though. I felt that even though he is really good, what makes someone great is the competition they face. He never really fought anyone great. I never really followed much mma under 155, but I always felt that the divisions under 155 needed to catch up to the rest.

it could be that as the sport gets bigger, the divisions under 155 are growing in talent also. And now guys like Faber and Torres are either getting a little passed their prime or the competition are getting better. or both
 
couple weeks since anyone's posted


Great week of MMA last week...XFC X, UFC on VS, Dream 13
Dream 13 was a crazy card. All I have to say about the UFC event is JUNIOR!!!!
 
pwmin;4006269; said:
couple weeks since anyone's posted


Great week of MMA last week...XFC X, UFC on VS, Dream 13
Dream 13 was a crazy card. All I have to say about the UFC event is JUNIOR!!!!


Yeah, Dos Santos is really good. I have been hyping him and Cain for a while, and now it looks like they might have to meet up. I wish they would wait till after Cain beats Brock, but I don't think they will.
I think Junior is the only guy who can beat Cain, and probably they same goes for Cain over Junior.
For me, these guys are 1 and 2, but I don't know who's better, and one fight probably won't solve it. We're gonna need a 7 game series out of these two!
 
hamato_yoshii;4007987; said:
Yeah, Dos Santos is really good. I have been hyping him and Cain for a while, and now it looks like they might have to meet up. I wish they would wait till after Cain beats Brock, but I don't think they will.
I think Junior is the only guy who can beat Cain, and probably they same goes for Cain over Junior.
For me, these guys are 1 and 2, but I don't know who's better, and one fight probably won't solve it. We're gonna need a 7 game series out of these two!

unfortunately, I like both guys but I gotta say, Cain has the advantage. The only thing I'm not sure of is, how well JDS would do against a strong wrestler. How well can he fight off his back and really, how good is his bjj. We've yet to see that and if he fights Cain, we'll definitely see that. I dont' know if he'll be able to ko Cain, from the big shots Cain took from Kongo, and how well he recovered and avoided being ko'd, I don't know if JDS will be able to ko him with one big shot. I think, if he lands one big shot, Cain will go for a take down and avoid further damage.

I see Cain doing his thing, throw bombs and look for an opening for a takedown and do his gnp. Dos Santos takes this fight if he can defend takedowns and keep it on the feet to get a ko or get a decision. I dont' see Cain winning if it stays standing

overall, i give Cain a slight edge in this fight
 
http://mmajunkie.com/news/18560/ufc...ve-lost-saturday-night-but-i-wasnt-beaten.mma

UFC welterweight Dan Hardy (23-7 MMA, 4-1 UFC) is the first to admit that Georges St-Pierre (20-2 MMA, 15-2 UFC) is a better grappler than him. But he's not convinced the champion is a better fighter.
He's not impressed with St-Pierre's performance.
"[St-Pierre] just convinced me that he can keep me on the floor for 25 minutes," Hardy told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) on Wednesday from Charlotte, N.C., where he was visiting friends and supporting teammates Ross Pearson and Andre Winner as they prepared to fight at UFC Fight Night 21.
The welterweight champion dominated the British contender at UFC 111 this past Saturday in a fight that rarely left the mat. The affair bored Hardy, and he's learned a valuable lesson about where his grappling skills need to be from now on.
"It was frustrating," Hardy said. "I didn't feel like I had a fight. I've got no marks or injuries. But on the plus side, I know what kind of standard I'm up against on the floor, and I feel comfortable. With a little more training I can be a lot more offensive and a lot more dangerous down there."
It was St-Pierre's fourth title defense since he regained the 170-pound belt from Matt Serra, who took it from him in a massive upset victory at UFC 69 in April 2007.
Hardy wasn't the underdog Serra was back then – but not by much. Many pundits pointed to Hardy's lack of wrestling pedigree – and the absence of wrestling training in the U.K. – as a recipe for disaster from the fight's conception as UFC 111's headliner.
Hardy played with those expectations. Weeks from the fight, he released a viral video of him in a blue singlet as he ineptly wrestled about at a gym. He called a victory by left hook in official promos.
The toungue-in-cheek video proved to be strangely prophetic.
But going to the mat was not a fate Hardy thought he could avoid. However, his game plan hinged on the few moments before that shot came. Instead of a few moments, he got 22 seconds.
"The problem was that my gameplan was based on not stepping forward because if I stepped forward, he would change levels," Hardy said. "So I was trying to get him to commit so I could counter him. He just didn't want to play on the feet at all."
The athleticism and power St-Pierre is known for did not overwhelm the challenger as many expected it would. Though St-Pierre nearly ripped Hardy's arm off with armbar and kimura attempts, the challenger hung in the fight and said he was never in danger. The fight just plodded along.
St-Pierre apologized to the UFC crowd afterward for not finishing his opponent.
Hardy was left with a bitter taste in his mouth.
"I was saying this in the buildup to the fight – 'GSP' doesn't take risks in his fights anymore," he said. "He knew that my strength was striking and (within) 17 seconds of the first round, he shot in for a takedown. I think that says a lot about his approach to the fight game. He goes in there to win the fight and keep the belt and not to beat his opponent.
"You can only fight this way for so long before people start complaining. I think Saturday night highlighted that, and I think a lot of people have started complaining. I don't know how we're going to get around it, because as the sport is now, you can do that and win fights.
This week, Hardy heads to Disneyworld with his girlfriend. He also plans to attend UFC 113 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, in addition to making an appearance at the UFC Fan Expo in Las Vegas.
"I do need a vacation, mentally, because it's been a real tough few weeks with the training camp and the 'Primetime' (TV special)," Hardy said. "I lost my granddad during the training camp as well, which was very difficult to deal with at the time. I need to take a step away and refresh myself."
Per the usual, Hardy said he'll wait to hear from the UFC before he calls anyone out. He believes he'll face St-Pierre again within a year if he continues to win fights.
"When I fight him again, I'll be able to step into the octagon with a lot more confidence," he said. "Not that I didn't go into this fight with confidence, but I'm convinced now I can beat him. With a couple more months of training and a bit of work in a couple of areas, I can get the job done.
"I may have lost on Saturday night, but I wasn't beaten."

Give me a break. Aww, you mean GSP didn't want to stand and trade punches with you? I wonder why? Why is GSP supposed to out duel his opponent in the area that they are the strongest? Nobody got mad at Anderson Silva for not going to the ground to fight Thales Leites.
I like Hardy, but come on, if you don't like it, go beat him.
And try not to get dominated for 5 straight rounds if you want to talk crap.
And BTW, the "risk" GSP takes is the same one all the fighters take, and that is, getting in the cage. That is a risk in itself, anything can happen in there, like some guy who can only puch, can drop you if your not careful.
Hmm, that sounds familiar, oh yeah, Serra did that to GSP.
I wonder why he doesn't just stand up and trade with punchers.....
 
hamato_yoshii;4035852; said:
http://mmajunkie.com/news/18560/ufc...ve-lost-saturday-night-but-i-wasnt-beaten.mma



Give me a break. Aww, you mean GSP didn't want to stand and trade punches with you? I wonder why? Why is GSP supposed to out duel his opponent in the area that they are the strongest? Nobody got mad at Anderson Silva for not going to the ground to fight Thales Leites.
I like Hardy, but come on, if you don't like it, go beat him.
And try not to get dominated for 5 straight rounds if you want to talk crap.
And BTW, the "risk" GSP takes is the same one all the fighters take, and that is, getting in the cage. That is a risk in itself, anything can happen in there, like some guy who can only puch, can drop you if your not careful.
Hmm, that sounds familiar, oh yeah, Serra did that to GSP.
I wonder why he doesn't just stand up and trade with punchers.....

I just watched the fight and have to agree. If you don't want to be taken down and
deal with a grappler, then the first thing he should have learned to do in training is
SPRAWL. When Liddell was in his hayday that is why none of the grapplers were
able to beat him. Because of his take down defense and ability to sprawl.
 
pwmin;4036194; said:
I did, lol, but I understand.


I still liked Hardy after the fight until that. He should have admitted that his wrestling sucks and he needs to work on it and left it at that.


I did too, but I hardly think that is the mainstream opinion.
 
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