Moving Bed Filter

  • We are currently upgrading MFK. thanks! -neo
Maybe the second pic was not seen or something
 
Yes I agree, that's a wet/dry
 
I<3fish;2878404;2878404 said:
That's not a wet/dry mate. Lol. That's submerged bio filtration, which is less effective at bio filtration than filter sponges...
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Could you please explain this further as it seems to contradict what the japanese are using to great effect.

aeri- I think using something plastic that floats may be better.
 
I saw the same illusion in the second picture that I<3fish did. The drip plate gave the illusion that the bio-balls were submerged. The wet/dry media is more efficient than submerged because it has the air as an O2 source. Japanese filters are extremely good at what they do because of their shear volume. The mechanical portions of the filter (mostly in 1st pic) also serve as bio-filtration. Since it is fully submerged, the bacteria gets its O2 from the water. If there is sufficient submerged media, it is possible for it to operate slightly anaerobic and consume nitrates. Ya can't argue with success. :thumbsup:
 
Oh by the way, aeri since you have the available chamber, you may as well use it. It looks like it is begging for a moving bed style filter. Just add media.
 
Ullopincrate;2877985; said:
It seems like you could set it up the same but I am questioning the efficiency of it.
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CHOMPERS;2878035; said:
^ I second the motion.

It is in a pet shop and it is more for show than function. In a retail environment, you have to establish a degree of credibility or your customers will find another retailer who will. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull schmidt.
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I would not be so quick to judge. These systems have been around since 1989 on big million dollar projects for cleaning waste water in Europe. They are starting to pop up in the aquarium world a lot and in big system as well.

The cost of the fish being keep in some of these systems has a lot to say about such a system.

Here is a link to one system that I can remember click on the photos.
http://www.amazonasrochen.de/aquarium-filter.html
 
thanks everyone. moving bed it is. i'll add a L pvc tube at the end to force the flow downwards.

would it be more effective to use 1"x1" squares of foam (I have a bunch of irregular pieces sitting around), or to buy 1000 straws and cut them to pieces? or even sand (might get messy)? i can't find that "honeycomb" material that most moving beds use, and small bioballs are increasing in price lately. i've heard of some using coke bottle caps too.

cockroach;2878711; said:
aeri- I think using something plastic that floats may be better.
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plastic for the moving bed?
 
The Rat;2879353; said:
I would not be so quick to judge. These systems have been around since 1989 on big million dollar projects for cleaning waste water in Europe. They are starting to pop up in the aquarium world a lot and in big system as well.

The cost of the fish being keep in some of these systems has a lot to say about such a system.

"bull schmidt" I doubt it :D

Here is a link to one system that I can remember click on the photos.
http://www.amazonasrochen.de/aquarium-filter.html
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Don't be so quick to put so much credibility in "big million dollar projects". I have built revolutionary multimillion dollar water treatment plants. You would be surprised how much "baffle" there is and how much "dazzle" there isn't.
 
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