You know Zoo Diver I really dont understand you. You would think that someone that is all into this industry such as yourself would commend me for wanting to breed Black Rays . For that specific reason is why I want to breed them.You know im not sure if you still where your goggles when you log on cause everthing I talk about you misunderstand, or take it the wrong way. Seems like your very negative.Im new to the site , and before I post something I really try to read and understand what it is that we are talking about. Like when you started saying the nonsense that I was selling wild caught Paiche, and you clearly said that you had just over looked the few hundred posts. And was not sure.Before you say something like that ,you should be sure . Do you really think that just cause Brazil banned the colletion of the rays it has stopped?If im saying I want to breed them is so I dont have to catch them from the wild.If you go back and read all the posts youll see that Ive said I want to breed whatever I can . And Zoo if we are getting all PETA here , the Amazon here is getting DESTROYED and I have seen it with my own eyes, if anyone here knows what time it is its me . I give it another 20 years max! So I would understand your post if I was saying lets smuggle some rays.Zoodiver;1079061; said:
My Arapaima Farm tell me what you think
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Blake you are too funny, Im not sure email my guy at jungle2u@gmail he should know. Im not sure. I wont be back until Monday. But I will say you guys keep me not bored in the middle of no where.
Apistogramma Master;1080081; said:
I hate hearing that, its so utterly disappointing.
I think ZD was trying to keep the realities out in the open, who knows who is serious and who isnt about acquiring one. Someone like you who deals with these exotics and makes it seems to easy is always going to set off something in someone who has had some serious involvement with the industry, such as ZD.
I kind of felt the same way, but i think you have good plans and the will to do so. Plus i love seeing the pics and hearing about what you have to say from your experiences. Keep us updated!
Why should I support someone stealing illegal animals and trying to sell them on this site?
If Brazil banned export, it's because people are taking too many out. What gives you the right to go around the law and keep exporting them? I'm here to enforce the laws, not think I'm better than they are.
I am NOT negative. I spend hundreds of hours promoting CONSERVATION. Anyone who knows me will tell you the same: especially of the Amazon. Over the past few months I created the second largest Amazon fish display (by tank volume) in North America, with the largest population of fish from that area on display in this half of the world. I brought them all in completely legally, and am part of three different conservations studies based on captive breeding the rarest of the rare in an effort to reverse what people are doing down there. What you are doing is raping her of her natural resources and trying to turn a profit for it. If you really want to help conserve leopoldi....go buy some captive bred animals and start your own captive breeding center. Don't smuggle black market animals out. It's completely against the point.
If Brazil banned export, it's because people are taking too many out. What gives you the right to go around the law and keep exporting them? I'm here to enforce the laws, not think I'm better than they are.
I am NOT negative. I spend hundreds of hours promoting CONSERVATION. Anyone who knows me will tell you the same: especially of the Amazon. Over the past few months I created the second largest Amazon fish display (by tank volume) in North America, with the largest population of fish from that area on display in this half of the world. I brought them all in completely legally, and am part of three different conservations studies based on captive breeding the rarest of the rare in an effort to reverse what people are doing down there. What you are doing is raping her of her natural resources and trying to turn a profit for it. If you really want to help conserve leopoldi....go buy some captive bred animals and start your own captive breeding center. Don't smuggle black market animals out. It's completely against the point.
fishloverblake;1080088; said:
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so, how much is it for 2 gigas.
It's well documented that you can't care for them, your signature is further evidence. Besides, if you read the thread, it would cost hundreds of dollars to import them legally. Please stop spamming this thread.
Zoodiver;1080463; said:
I'll have to agree with Matt on the ray issue. Unless you get government authorization to start a captive breeding and release program, and do it on a mass scale, I doubt it would help. And Matt is definitely not negative, he constantly supports and abides by the law in the business, and is very helpful to those interested. I have never seen him post anything contrary to that. He just wants to support the hobby and the industry in an ethical manner
sorry but i didn't catch this whole thread. but if these are all captive breed whats the problem? i mean yea it sucks but where is illegal part?
if anything i think this man should relese a good portion of the animals every breeding to help with wild live stock but besides that, i thought captve breed animals were legal.
please correct me if im wrong. i mean no disrespect to the moderators or zoodiver was just wonderin the leaglity issue
if anything i think this man should relese a good portion of the animals every breeding to help with wild live stock but besides that, i thought captve breed animals were legal.
please correct me if im wrong. i mean no disrespect to the moderators or zoodiver was just wonderin the leaglity issue
There you go again posting nonsence.Who said I have too steal anything.I have the political pull to start this project.Im the most legit exporter youll ever meet.Right now I was just eating with the President of the region.We came out here with the whole department of fishery here in the Loreto region. Why do you keep draging this on BRO.I didnt know you were the enforcer here and had too ask you if I can breed fish.I understand what your telling me. But who said I wasnt legit.Zoodiver;1080463; said:
Im glad you built that big tank. Just so you know all you did is add to the demand for these fish.When the Long Beach Aquarium was built, do you know how many tanks I sold from people seeing the fish there? Instead of trying argue with me why dont you get off the high horse you think your on .And come and make a diffrence with me . I invite you to come and get dirty with me ,and come where the action is. TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO EVERYONE . I WILL TRY TO BREED WHAT EVER I CAN TO MEET THE DEMAND THERE IS FOR YOUR FISH THAT YOU LOVE SO MUCH. SO WE DONT HAVE TO PULL THEM FROM THERE NATURAL HOME.THATS WHY THIS THREAD IS CALLED MY FARM.
And if I can find some captive breed ones sure why not. But im sure we wont.
It is legal its just ZOO diver reads the thread with his dive goggles on and dosnt get it. And starts posting stupid comments. Or maybe he just likes to here himself speak. You know I posted this thread as a positive thing, just sucks when people start to hate.