ewurm;749960; said:Line your Maxima up against my Redline...
You praise that car so much Saturn must send you a check every week for promotions..
ewurm;749960; said:Line your Maxima up against my Redline...
icthyophile;751219; said:Exactly. All other factors being equal, power to weight ratio (actually lbs/hp, but every calls it "power to weight") is the best determinant of acceleration. The 1990-94 Maximas weighed around 3200 lbs and packed only 160 hp (20 lbs/hp). The Saturn Ion Redline weighs just under 3000 lbs and has 200 hp (15 lbs/hp). Advantage Saturn, even though I think it's a FWD appliance just like the 1991 Maxima.![]()
You're preaching to the wrong guy. I don't do FWD. And the Ion Redline is not the fastest FWD in production. The Neon SRT-4 was much faster. V-6 Altimas, Accords, and even Camrys are faster accelerating. There are many FWD Saabs and Volvos that are quite the torque-steer machines. Regardless, FWD is not justified by snow. If you have snow there, get AWD. In the Sierra Nevada, FWD is not enough. (You can get 8 feet or more of snow during a single 2-3 day snowstorm.) FWD cars are appliances, IMO, not performance cars. If I ever buy a FWD car, it will be an economical and practical one like a Honda Fit. Otherwise, I will stick w/ my AWD Subaru, 4WD truck, and RWD Karmann-Ghia. My wife even drives a RWD Miata.ewurm;754562; said:The FWD aside, go and drive one. It's the fastest front wheel drive in production. We have snow here, so FWD is required, unless you want two cars. For a stock unit, there aren't many on the road that offer the performance vs. price of the Redline.
icthyophile;754775; said:You're preaching to the wrong guy. I don't do FWD. And the Ion Redline is not the fastest FWD in production. The Neon SRT-4 was much faster. V-6 Altimas, Accords, and even Camrys are faster accelerating. There are many FWD Saabs and Volvos that are quite the torque-steer machines. Regardless, FWD is not justified by snow. If you have snow there, get AWD. In the Sierra Nevada, FWD is not enough. (You can get 8 feet or more of snow during a single 2-3 day snowstorm.) FWD cars are appliances, IMO, not performance cars. If I ever buy a FWD car, it will be an economical and practical one like a Honda Fit. Otherwise, I will stick w/ my AWD Subaru, 4WD truck, and RWD Karmann-Ghia. My wife even drives a RWD Miata.
icthyophile;754775; said:You're preaching to the wrong guy. I don't do FWD. And the Ion Redline is not the fastest FWD in production. The Neon SRT-4 was much faster. V-6 Altimas, Accords, and even Camrys are faster accelerating. There are many FWD Saabs and Volvos that are quite the torque-steer machines. Regardless, FWD is not justified by snow. If you have snow there, get AWD. In the Sierra Nevada, FWD is not enough. (You can get 8 feet or more of snow during a single 2-3 day snowstorm.) FWD cars are appliances, IMO, not performance cars. If I ever buy a FWD car, it will be an economical and practical one like a Honda Fit. Otherwise, I will stick w/ my AWD Subaru, 4WD truck, and RWD Karmann-Ghia. My wife even drives a RWD Miata.
cichlaguapote;754047; said:Dude you're such a liar.. You're like 14, don't make me go over to p-fury and get picture of you with aluminum foil on your head... I'll believe you have that car when you show me a picture of you sitting it giving me the finger.
:WTF:
TipStylez;753932; said:P.S.
Before i go judging you like you judge me...
Give me your fastest drag time on your supra, with you as the driver.
RWHP, and HP to the crank dyno sheets.
Weight
And total of money spent including the car to reach these specs.
And to top it off, your reason why that car is a better choice then a moded, say...cressida with a 1jz at the drag strip.
Once i get that info, then i will judge you like real drivers do.
---XR---;754963; said:sorry cichlid guatopote, it may be hard to belive but he's my nephew, he stole my america's army name, i'm sad you don't belive me but i'm 32, i should have made a diiferent username i guess, and all the **** i talk is true, i'm not some ass.
---XR---;754968; said:you are right, that for the price you pay for them, you can have much faster cars, when i get home i'll get those statistics up, i'm sorry for the flameing before too