My Discus fish went beserk!

[fishbabe]

Waste products of ammonia (fish poop and decaying food and any other waste product.)

Not possible.... my dad used a tube to suck out all the poop...... it was some nice looking fish while it lasted.

 

[Malawi-]

Im stumped... Discus can be hard fish to take care of... Sorry again, couldnt help much.

 

[mauihana2001]

Have you discussed your situation with the person you bought your discus from? If they are a reputable seller, they can help you figure out what happened and they may possibly replace your loss or offer some kind of discount on your next purchase. At any rate, soory to hear about your loss.

 

[fishbabe]

Waste products of ammonia (fish poop and decaying food and any other waste product.)

Have you discussed your situation with the person you bought your discus from? If they are a reputable seller, they can help you figure out what happened and they may possibly replace your loss or offer some kind of discount on your next purchase. At any rate, soory to hear about your loss.

we got it from a large store in a chain mall....... plus it was weird how our 3 month old discuss went crazy and started to do the same thing as the rest of them....

 

[Lupin]

Not possible.... my dad used a tube to suck out all the poop...... it was some nice looking fish while it lasted.

Okay, from all the information gathered, I think you jumped too quickly on discus. Discus while they are hardy, are not your average community fish. They require extra attention to their requirements. I think you should read about nitrogen cycle.
http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84598

Your post denying the nitrites and nitrates is not correct. Poo and food products as mentioned earlier are sources of ammonia. Now, the ammonia has to be converted by the bacteria to nitrites. Both are extremely dangerous to the fish in present levels and therefore should remain at zero however nitrites is more toxic than ammonia as ammonia is only as dangerous as it should be in hard alkaline waters which in your case is otherwise. Now, the nitrites must be convert next to nitrates, the final product of nitrogen cycle. This is the least dangerous among the three however it should not exceed 40 ppm as per the test kit results. Get API liquid test kit for ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, pH, GH and KH. All are required for you to determine what went wrong.

Start over your tank by doing fishless cycle. What filter are you using? What filter media do you have? You will want sponges and filter flosses for the filter to remove the particles and serves as a colony for the beneficial bacteria. Do you have dechlorinator? Make sure the brand you are using can lock down chlorine and chloramine, both being toxic to the fish.

I suggest you read this thread as well.
http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42633

My advice is research further on ways to cycle the tank. Until you can guarantee your ammonia and nitrites are zero with nitrates no more than 40 ppm, do not buy any fish. You could borrow a friend's established filter media making sure they are free from contamination of diseases and other pathogens and place them in your filter but all the same, test your tank water regularly until all levels permit the fish to thrive.

Do not buy discus for now. Focus on cycling your tank properly and stick with the fish that are hardy and less demanding such as some strains of angelfish including the gold, marble and zebra.

 

[fishbabe]

could it be parasites? cause once my discus died i say these tiny little white moving things starting to develope.

you see them really good with a magnifying glass. my three month old discuss died last, and thats where the white little things begin to show up.

if it was parasites i dont know where it came from cause all those discus we brought are full grown.

 

[mauihana2001]

Did you dump the water the discus came in into your tank or did you net the discus and put them in your tank once they were acclimated? You should never dump the fish store water into your tank water. Also, can you clarify your earlier post about the discus traveling for three days?

 

[Lupin]

could it be parasites? cause once my discus died i say these tiny little white moving things starting to develope.

you see them really good with a magnifying glass. my three month old discuss died last, and thats where the white little things begin to show up.

if it was parasites i dont know where it came from cause all those discus we brought are full grown.

This is planaria. Planaria are not harmful critters and will appear in poorly maintained tanks or in tanks where there are plenty of food leftovers. Unless you have done water changes in the past three months, then planaria will naturally occur and the situation is probably worsened by the deteriorating water quality caused by the decomposition of the dead fish.

 

[fishbabe]

Did you dump the water the discus came in into your tank or did you net the discus and put them in your tank once they were acclimated? You should never dump the fish store water into your tank water. Also, can you clarify your earlier post about the discus traveling for three days?

i did not know if he did this or not, but why cant you dump the water in?

Discus dont sell locally in my town so i had to travel a long distance to get it.

it was in a bag for three days. possibly two.

 

[fishbabe]

Okay, from all the information gathered, I think you jumped too quickly on discus. Discus while they are hardy, are not your average community fish. They require extra attention to their requirements. I think you should read about nitrogen cycle.
http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84598

Your post denying the nitrites and nitrates is not correct. Poo and food products as mentioned earlier are sources of ammonia. Now, the ammonia has to be converted by the bacteria to nitrites. Both are extremely dangerous to the fish in present levels and therefore should remain at zero however nitrites is more toxic than ammonia as ammonia is only as dangerous as it should be in hard alkaline waters which in your case is otherwise. Now, the nitrites must be convert next to nitrates, the final product of nitrogen cycle. This is the least dangerous among the three however it should not exceed 40 ppm as per the test kit results. Get API liquid test kit for ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, pH, GH and KH. All are required for you to determine what went wrong.

Start over your tank by doing fishless cycle. What filter are you using? What filter media do you have? You will want sponges and filter flosses for the filter to remove the particles and serves as a colony for the beneficial bacteria. Do you have dechlorinator? Make sure the brand you are using can lock down chlorine and chloramine, both being toxic to the fish.

I suggest you read this thread as well.
http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42633

My advice is research further on ways to cycle the tank. Until you can guarantee your ammonia and nitrites are zero with nitrates no more than 40 ppm, do not buy any fish. You could borrow a friend's established filter media making sure they are free from contamination of diseases and other pathogens and place them in your filter but all the same, test your tank water regularly until all levels permit the fish to thrive.

Do not buy discus for now. Focus on cycling your tank properly and stick with the fish that are hardy and less demanding such as some strains of angelfish including the gold, marble and zebra.

but i dont undstand though we manage to raise a baby discus to full size, yet when we added more to the tank they all died. we brought a high quality filter, not sure if it was good.