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4D3...........that fenny man......holy smokes! please post more pics of it!...in a diffrent thread ofcourse
 
I know, but bear with me.


4d3, please make a thread of your set up, I wanna follow what's going on with your set up, don't think of me as one of those flamers, hehe, just curious to see what's hot. kudos tho.


Am I reading that wrong or are you saying the pots lower nitrate? If they do im off to the garden centre! What other filtration do you have? Tank looks clean considering the quantity of large fish


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4D3...........that fenny man......holy smokes! please post more pics of it!...in a diffrent thread ofcourse




Hi,


I have made a thread here as requested.


If you want to talk about my tank and setup and methods for keeping angry fish head over to:


http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...TANK-WITH-NO-AGGRESSION&p=6575873#post6575873
 
My question to the OP is same as above-- what size tank? Will make a difference to what you might even be able to attempt or not. Large enough tank and you might have some options, including dividing the tank with a clear divider that allows the new and old fish to see each other-- I've used clear acrylic with holes I drilled in it or expandable window screens. It's possible the fish will become accustomed to each other and accept their presence over time and that you can eventually remove the divider. Might take a while, as in a couple of months. I can't guarantee success but it's a method that's worked for me before. Or, if you really want the new fish bad enough, and have only one tank, but it's a large enough tank, you might be able to keep it permanently divided-- again goes to what size tank? Even so, it's also possible that disrupting the status quo could disrupt the peace between your current tankmates.

Suggestion for catching difficult to catch fish: Use a divider of some sort to shepherd the fish you're after to one end of the tank and confine them to a space small enough to net them out of more easily. I've used acrylic as above, expandable window screens, or two standard aquarium dividers for a 55 gal tank can be custom fitted together to fit a larger tank.
 
Op needs to learn to do research and to take advise when given. $55 for a dead jardini, wow what a great deal.
 
What about them...zero if you wanting to know

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This is from the tank that you have twice posted threads about it crashing, right? Obviously you have no understanding of how the nitrogen cycle works in an aquarium. Your fish are not aggressive because they are so stressed from swimming in the ammonia that is your tank. Probably should learn to actually maintain a take first before giving advise to others.
 
Over stocking is the key.I have a6x2x2 and about 15 big cichlids in it no aggression

I can put new fish in no problems, as long as the new fish is bigger than 17cm all is well.

I also have a completely bare tank with no territory there is 1-2 ornaments in the tank and that's it, the fish spend their time watching their back instead of picking fights.

Synspilum are really good peace keepers, if you can get a15-20cm syn, put him in the tank he will dominate the other fish, and then when you add anything new it will protect them from the jd & rd.....

Also I would get 4-5 other fish same size as the ones you have in there too...try out then all in at the same time, remove all ornaments for the introduction, and don't put them back straight away, when you do out the ornaments back out then in completely different places.

Your jd has an area so does your red devil....

I have:

30cm+: Midas, fenustratus, jaguar, Oscar, green terror

15cm+: flowerhorn, kamfa,jd,rd,2 synspilum

(My fen is the piece keeper,40+cm, but he is a placid fen,i would not recommend a fen as a piece keeper)

Just my opinion (waiting for a load of people to tell me I'm wrong...but I'm not)

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A 6x2x2 will literally disappear once all your fish reach maturity regardless of aggression. Syns and Fens can become massive at maturity.

Horrible way to keep fish IMO. JDM style tanks are not my thing. To each his own.

To the op: this is typical behavior given your setup and stock. I've had moderately stocked tanks work for awhile, but as fish nature things can change quickly. At certain sizes, certain fish can turn on a dime and wreck a seemingly peaceful tank.

I've had some luck removing fish and rescaping but those that have been successful were long qt periods ( weeks to months)

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A 6x2x2 will literally disappear once all your fish reach maturity regardless of aggression. Syns and Fens can become massive at maturity.

Horrible way to keep fish IMO. JDM style tanks are not my thing. To each his own.

As they increase in size I do plan to reduce the stock particularly:

Red devil, Jack Dempsey, one synspilum, king kamfa, 2 Pleco

But only when the fish are sufficient size to give the same over stocking effect with reduced numbers. I will probably end up with 5-6 large fish in total

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As they increase in size I do plan to reduce the stock particularly:

Red devil, Jack Dempsey, one synspilum, king kamfa, 2 Pleco

But only when the fish are sufficient size to give the same over stocking effect with reduced numbers. I will probably end up with 5-6 large fish in total

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So it's a grow out tank. Most of us around here have plenty of those, we just don't post threads about them. Nothing new here really then.




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A 6x2x2 will literally disappear once all your fish reach maturity regardless of aggression. Syns and Fens can become massive at maturity.

Horrible way to keep fish IMO. JDM style tanks are not my thing. To each his own.

To the op: this is typical behavior given your setup and stock. I've had moderately stocked tanks work for awhile, but as fish nature things can change quickly. At certain sizes, certain fish can turn on a dime and wreck a seemingly peaceful tank.

I've had some luck removing fish and rescaping but those that have been successful were long qt periods ( weeks to months)

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Whats a JDM style tank please?

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