My new H. Tatauaia

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vamptrev;4339473; said:
yes we do know lol
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Vamp I know what I'm about to say is just gonna piss you off even more buuuuut, I just looked at him and he is getting white edging on his tail. And the yellow is getting alot more colorful and he has a pitch black edging with the white on the tips. Does that not sound like Armatus?
 
PayaraMan;4340334; said:
Vamp I know what I'm about to say is just gonna piss you off even more buuuuut, I just looked at him and he is getting white edging on his tail. And the yellow is getting alot more colorful and he has a pitch black edging with the white on the tips. Does that not sound like Armatus?
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Don't challenge the king of payara.
 
What size is it now PayaraMan? If its 4-5" and doesn't have a point going out of the center of the caudal fin it isn't an H. armatus. If it does it is.
 
apriliarider15;4340676; said:
What size is it now PayaraMan? If its 4-5" and doesn't have a point going out of the center of the caudal fin it isn't an H. armatus. If it does it is.
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He was a bit beat up when I bought him because he was with two others so I know there was some nipping, But it does look like he has a pointed center on his caudal tail and he is 6". I'll post some pics in a bit.
 
its fairly hard to explain the differences but i can tell by the jaw size and tail size right off the bat. this is a very common tat varient with the yellow tail. its not like we havent seen this varient b4

apriliarider15;4340676; said:
What size is it now PayaraMan? If its 4-5" and doesn't have a point going out of the center of the caudal fin it isn't an H. armatus. If it does it is.
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where u hear this? dosnt seem like a valid way to ID them...
 
Looks good.... nice Payara!
 
vamptrev;4340756; said:
its fairly hard to explain the differences but i can tell by the jaw size and tail size right off the bat. this is a very common tat varient with the yellow tail. its not like we havent seen this varient b4



where u hear this? dosnt seem like a valid way to ID them...
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On the armatus ID guide in the sticky
 
What's funny?

This is a post from the Armatus id guide.
aro-man;1240032; said:
Armatus:
Red/orange adipose fin
black slash behind gill plate
white edged caudal fin
clear caudal fin base turning to black
extensions in center of tail fin (larger individuals)
swims at a level swimming angle
larger jaw
down turned head

Scomb:
Black adipose fin
black blotch behind gill plate
black caudal fin base turning to clear
no extensions in caudal fin
smaller jaw
upturned head
swims at a slightly head down angle (most of the time)
more pronounced hump behind head

These are some of the things i have noticed between my payaras. Also the two behave differently. Also, in larger fish 6in and up, the arm tends to have a goldish colored head while a scomb is a more darker silver color. Anyone else notice more things different between the two?
p.s. Great Idea rumblesushi!
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And here are some pictures of the tails of the two species including one of vamptrev's. This is how I knew the ones at my lfs are armatus over tatauaia.
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And here are they H. tatauaia
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Notice the H. tatauaia don't have the extension out of the center of the caudal fin.
 
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