To know what "part of a lake" does not seem very important. A different variant would be found in an area where there was some deterrent to separate fish. In a lake, the fish just swim across the lake, it is not like they are bound by a separate river or a separate lake completely. I think fish from any particular lake will be uniform. That is kind of like needing the exact coordinates your fish was collected at, mine was collected 100 feet further east, there would be no difference.
My newest acquistion: sp. 'Conkeli'
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If I'm not mistaken there are different species of certain genus in a lot of the african lake drift cichlids. Take lake malawi for instance. Luguna Catemaco being the 3rd largest lake in Mexico, I don't think we can count different species of the same genus out. Or different variants for that matter.
Malawi-45,747 square miles
Catameco- 28.01 square miles
A huge difference, but I am not a scientist
Nemesis this may be of interest to you, if you have not seen it.
http://www.cichlidae.com/article.php?id=23
Catameco- 28.01 square miles
A huge difference, but I am not a scientist
Nemesis this may be of interest to you, if you have not seen it.
http://www.cichlidae.com/article.php?id=23
reverse;3868912; said:
True, but you said there would have to be some kind of deterrent in order to have different variations or species right. I know crap about african cichlids, but there seem to be different species of the same genus found in the same, or relatively close location. At least that's what I got from here:http://www.malawimayhem.com/map.php
read the article I posted
Malawi is 1650 times bigger than Catameco, Malawi is 4700 feet deep in places, Catameco is 50 feet deep in a manmade channel........there really is no comparison.
I fish in Presa Cuchillo, in Mexico, it is bigger than Catameco, I catch bass right by the dock and I catch bass on the other side of the Presa, they are the same fish.
Just not a good argument, not trying to be a smartass but a 28 quare mile lake cannot compare with the rift lakes of Africa.
Malawi is 1650 times bigger than Catameco, Malawi is 4700 feet deep in places, Catameco is 50 feet deep in a manmade channel........there really is no comparison.
I fish in Presa Cuchillo, in Mexico, it is bigger than Catameco, I catch bass right by the dock and I catch bass on the other side of the Presa, they are the same fish.
Just not a good argument, not trying to be a smartass but a 28 quare mile lake cannot compare with the rift lakes of Africa.
Interesting topic, whatever you fish are they're stunning looking cc. Oh its funny because the reason I like midas so much is their variation. 
reverse;3868912; said:
My understanding of the read is that the pink, or sp. catemaco as dc is "marketing" is a new species. Mr Danko also states that he caught a normal fenestratus, most likely that made it's way into laguna catemaco. There was also a more "pie bald" looking fenestratus, that I feel was most likely a cross between the sp. catemaco, and normal fenestratus. And then there was the pink, or sp. catemaco, which he even clearly states that is very different.
Thanks for the link, it actually clarified everything for me. As cchhcc said this species has been around a long time, but like Mr. Danko said they were a hard and rare fish to find in the US. I feel the pie bald are just that, a natural occurring mix between the two. Explaining why dc classifies them differently. It seems dc has held back on the "sp. catemaco's, until now. May explain why you see so many piebalds at your lfs, but not the "pink" fenestratus. Am I making sense?
Let me ask you the next question Nemesis, when, and maybe you do not know this, but when was the last time Conkel and his crew collected in Catemeco?
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Honestly i don't know, as I have never gone collecting with him. Hell I don't even know the guy, aside from the fact that I own some of his wonderful fish. I'm sure I can find out, as I'm told he isn't very hard to get a hold of. But first I have to ask you why does it matter? This isn't a discussion as to whether the fish are wild or not!
