My next insane thought. Air tight Sealed tank

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So this is kinda crazy and I am not actually doing it for money reason but lets talk about its possibility.

If you are like me you hate loud tanks and hate humidity that damages things. So you can make your tank silent with customer filter setup or canisters, but you can't stop all the humidity you can reduce it.

So my though is using lids with gaskets and screws, to create a tank thats sealed 100%. The screws are so you can open the tank and clean it.


So I hear it now you have to have gas exchange, we could get this from a sump located remotely but then you have humidity in that location. So my idea was 4 water storage containers 2 pumps.

First storage container is one of those nice setting tanks Koi ponds use. This would get the big stuff, next this drains to a tank with heaters this heater tank will have water level that is 3/4 of the tank.

In the heater tank there would b a circulation pump that sucks from the bottom and returns up top above the water line causing lots of agitation. Then the top of this tank would have two openings one as an air intake with a fan and carbon air filter, the second would be an exhaust with carbon air filter and a air dryer.

So new air comes in and old air goes out and gets dryer to remove humidity.

This tank then drains into the mechanical filter, which does the normal, and is from their drained to the bio filter, which is then pumped back to the tank(s).

Since all the tanks would have all returns and drains below the water line, there should be no sound at all, there should be no humidity, and the air exchanger would dry the air remove humidity in the gas exchanger tank. If you still ran into Desolved O2 problems you can inject O2 just like you would CO2, since they make controllers for both.


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You, my friend, have way too much time on your hands.
But a pretty interesting concept.
 
Well at night I have trouble sleeping so I get sleep deprived thoughts. and THen my mind is off to the race tracks.
 
I'm sure at one point in time folks rolled their eyes at the concept of the first canister filter. It might seem crazy, but you should try it on a small scale to see if it would work. Conceptually interesting......
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lmartelli77;5028934; said:
Would you have to unscrew the lid every time you needed to feed your fish???? Or did I miss something?

ideally you would have a feeding tube with a removable cap. Or maybe just like swivel cap like a diaper genie.

While this is not for everyone and the design might be off, the general idea is sound. When I had my frist sump in my basement the humidity molded the wall, and the steps going to the basement where always wet, as well as the a few feet in either direction of the basement door.

Granted this was because I didn't put a cover on the sump, but even with a cover on you sump and your tank there is still humidity added, now imagine if you had 30 tanks, the humidity would be high enough that you would have to buy a central unit to hook up to your HAVC system to remove the humidity.

A system like that uses a lot of electricity and has a large start up cost, My thought is not much different then if you setup a normal filtration system for a very large setup. The only change is the air dry and sealing of the tanks and i think the air dryer is cheaper then a central dehumidifier.
 
Don't get me wrong....i think it is a really cool idea if it could be made to be user friendly. I agree 100% about humidity issues....I only had a 55gal with a 30gal sump in my basement and the humidity was bad.
 
If I am not mistaken lifeguard already produces this type of filter. A few differences, but the premise is the same. Even with this however you will get some humidity. Oxygen in means carbon dioxide out. As carbon dioxide leaves the system it will take water with it if the humidity in the air around the tank is lower than they water itself, which it always must be. You can't stop evaporation, only slow it down.
 
+1 you have too much time and might be slightly insane... but arent we all?
 
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