My thoughts on why a kid shouldn't build a monster tank (things to consider)

[Southern Rebel]

x + 6 = 20
x = 14

What did I win?



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LMFAO

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[petspoiler]

I'm 20 years old and have been keeping monsters for 6 years you do the math blow me, and your parents shouldnt have to buy you anything get a job.

x + 6 = 20
x = 14

What did I win?

you might wanna reconsider just throwing your math around like that, without asking first...

 

[Gill Blue]

What did I win?

he just told you to do it, not that you'd get anything for it.

 

[hotsauce]

he just told you to do it, not that you'd get anything for it.

Im not sure but maybe just maybe....there was a small amount of sarcasm in there. . Well, as a father of 9 and 6yr olds that have tanks. It should be a progression into the big tank and the habitants that need them. My daughter has went from 10gal (tropical) now 46 bowfront (cichlid). Son from 10gal (tadpoles/bluegill) now 55 gal (softshell turtles). If they wants to build a enclosure as teens.....im all in.

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[petspoiler]

I'm 20 years old and have been keeping monsters for 6 years you do the math blow me, and your parents shouldnt have to buy you anything get a job.

he just told you to do it, not that you'd get anything for it.

maybe there was a penalty.

 

[Enjru]

I don't see what all the fuss is about kids spending their parents' money on the fishkeeping hobby. The more they spend on fishkeeping, the less they are spending on drugs and alcohol. The more involved they get with fishkeeping, the more they will learn about biology, organic chemistry, nutrition, medical models including concepts such as quarantine and pharmacokinetics, ecology, and even physics and engineering when they figure out how come the wet/dry sump filter underneath the monster fish tank isn't just overflowing and flooding the entire room in 6 inches of water, or when they have to work out which pump to get that will provide the required flow rate at the required height, and which kind of pump is most efficient for which application...

By contrast, a kid without an interest in fishkeeping might be obsessed with internet games, communicating with the spirit world, growth hormones, or shoes.

 

[petspoiler]

@Enjru: I agree.

 

[clekchau]

Yup my tank is in a insulated garage. During the winter my energy costs sky rockets. For food alone I spend at least $150-$200 per month just on frozen seafood, bulk Canadian nightcrawlers, bulk super worms and other live foods, frozen silversides and bloodworms and bulk Hikari/NLS pellets. Then there's water conditioner. I go through 4L+ of Prime (for recharging Purigen and waterchanges) in 1 year easily and I use 16 oz bottle of Prazi Pro to treat my tank 2-3 times per year due to feeding lots of live foods. I will probabely convert to using Safe once i finish my last 4L bottle of prime to save some costs on conditioner. Everything just adds up.


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it can be expensive but 5k is not the norm, i pay about $100 a month in electric probably $40 a month water and i have a drip system, food is cheap i just feed high qualilty pellets nls and hikari and occasional freeze dried krill. my moray gets a few shrimp once a week. its expensive but nowhere near what you are estimating on your tank, and i have twice the system volume as you in both my tanks, i guess i'm just lucky

 

[GrantA94]

Thread title should be changed to:

Why a kid isn't building a monster tank...

Answer:

'I like girls...not fish'

 

[pk705]

You understand very little of what MFK is about.

As someone who is 20 and has kept fish since he was 7(with the help of his mom)/12(alone), I feel obliged to say that a) you should define what you mean by kid (by many standards I would (or would like to) consider me and many like me to be kids); b) mention that perhaps instead of being forever skeptical, parents might like to instead be informed, helpful and responsible. Being a parent is not about policing your child making sure he never ****s up by preventing them from engaging in activities they like; it should be more about being there for them and helping them not to **** up while sharing a good time with them. Or perhaps that is just my utopian understanding of what a parent should be like. Yes, there should be limits, but really, saying no out of principle, is not a good limit.

Disclaimer: I do not know who is this "Andrew", to whom this thread seems to pertain to.

edit:

I don't see what all the fuss is about kids spending their parents' money on the fishkeeping hobby. The more they spend on fishkeeping, the less they are spending on drugs and alcohol. The more involved they get with fishkeeping, the more they will learn about biology, organic chemistry, nutrition, medical models including concepts such as quarantine and pharmacokinetics, ecology, and even physics and engineering when they figure out how come the wet/dry sump filter underneath the monster fish tank isn't just overflowing and flooding the entire room in 6 inches of water, or when they have to work out which pump to get that will provide the required flow rate at the required height, and which kind of pump is most efficient for which application...

By contrast, a kid without an interest in fishkeeping might be obsessed with internet games, communicating with the spirit world, growth hormones, or shoes.

I really do not believe that parents should ever be happy that their kid is doing something instead of ****ing up in life. Yes, they are doing the right thing (supporting the kid's passion); however, they are doing it so as to be less involved in the kid's upbringing without drastically increasing the chance of him ****ing up. If you're going to be happy just because your kid is not ****ing up, you should never have decided to have kids. </from the perspective of a kid who has never majorly ****ed up>

kids need to have jobs.

Or, you know, study for exams, go to college, get good grades; long term things. As somebody who spends 9 hours a day or more being in school/studying/going to and from school (as any kid who's parents can afford it, should), a job is not a possibility.

That is my opinion. What I wrote has a lot of reasons why I would not let my kid build a DIY monster tank, and also has a lot of things that a parent and kid should consider before starting. After considering all of those points and questions I have in my first post, I am at the conclusion that I would not let my kid build one unless I intend to be the owner once he goes to college and can't take it into the dorms with him.Again.....if you want to make another thread discussing the pitfalls and things to consider for everyone (not just kids/parents), make a thread. I'll be interested to read your thoughts.Again, it's not intended to bash the knowledge of minors. I'm sure there's some out there that know more than me. It's my thoughts on why a minor living in their parents house shouldn't build a DIY monster tank, and it has a lot of good things in it that I'm sure both parents and kids have not considered that should factor into the decision, which is ultimately theirs to make.

Ever thought of the possibility of selling a tank when they go to college? Maybe, agree on keeping fish that can be re-homed when such a time comes?


P.s. boy, this reply sure has a lot of **** in it .
P.p.s. I never wanted to build a really monster tank or even have one; I just feel many in this thread are polarized on the issue as opposed to being prepared to talk. Kind of like the US political system .