Adult pair all the way. Growth rate is something like .25 a month pretty close to a grammodes if I remember correctly. Chiller will definitely be a must where you live. I had a male in tank without a heater who did fine. Made one mistake though put him within viewing distance of the dovii I had at the time basically stressed himself out to the point I couldn't save him. Definitely a whole different ball game from the normal ca cichlid care.
Nandopsis Beani
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Wow. So even seeing other large cichlids in neighboring tanks is an issue? Thanks so much for posting this.
I hadn't given that much thought at all and the tank I was going to use is flanked by a 210 with some huge cichlids in it.....Jag, Pearsei, etc
Time to reconsider location. I'm rebuilding my office 135 and was going to go with smaller peaceful species, but this tank cannot "see" any other tanks or fish. This might be the one.
I know Mo Devlin had 3 Beani in a 125 for a period of time but not sure how they are doing now.
Are dithers/targets a no go too? Sds for example? I know the common approach is species only but I've got some huge sds that have worked well keeping other pairs from killing each other.
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If the tank is within the area that the beani considers it's territory & it can't get to them it will have a breakdown from what I've seen. SD's should work if you want to keep some small ones imo. Don't worry they will let you know if they're too many in there 
If the tank is within the area that the beani considers it's territory & it can't get to them it will have a breakdown from what I've seen. SD's should work if you want to keep some small ones imo. Don't worry they will let you know if they're too many in there
Lol that's kinda what I figured. Thanks again.
Boy, these are tough fish to accommodate. But I'm not deterred ..... Yet😳
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Some more great info and reading......
http://www.cichlidae.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=14812
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http://www.cichlidae.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=14812
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I kept a pair of beani in the pond this last summer with other cichlids, the pond is about 1500 gallons, and the beani "owned" about 1/3 of the area. No others dared enter their area
Other cichlids in the pond were Uruguayan Crenicichla pikes, and Australoherors red ceibals, both species similar in size to the beani
The beani don't seem to need much in the way of depth (gallons is not so much the issue as footprint), the area they sequestered was only 1-1.5 ft in depth, but approx 4 X 4 ft square area, with lots of emergent plant growth. Temps in the pond were cool 60-70'F.
Other cichlids in the pond were Uruguayan Crenicichla pikes, and Australoherors red ceibals, both species similar in size to the beani
The beani don't seem to need much in the way of depth (gallons is not so much the issue as footprint), the area they sequestered was only 1-1.5 ft in depth, but approx 4 X 4 ft square area, with lots of emergent plant growth. Temps in the pond were cool 60-70'F.
Beautiful fish! So most likely, a divider will be the safest way to go in a 135. 6' x 18" isn't really a big footprint if the aggression is what everyone says it is.
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I find a divider to be a necessary evil in 6 ft or under tanks for beani (with a hole only the female (or smaller of the two)can squeeze thru), for just about any large pair of aggressive cichlids.
Yeah......well.......the whole divider idea went over like a fart in church lol. My wife and I share the office and she doesn't see the point of redoing the tank the way we have recently done just to put a divider in it.
In some ways, I kind of agree with her. Especially considering the more involved I keep her, the more she lets me get away with. Happy wife=happy life.
the good thing is Ive gotten tons of great info and am either going to do a 300 gallon rubbermaid in the garage where they can't se any other fish at all, or move some tanks around to do away with the lines of sight. At least it seems that would be the best approach.
on a side note.......she has picked carpintis escondido for the 135. Smaller, slightly less aggressive and more comfortable in warmer conditions. Thanks to everyone who has shared info! learned a lot and it just doesn't seem like the time is right for Beani right now. To be continued...........
In some ways, I kind of agree with her. Especially considering the more involved I keep her, the more she lets me get away with. Happy wife=happy life.
the good thing is Ive gotten tons of great info and am either going to do a 300 gallon rubbermaid in the garage where they can't se any other fish at all, or move some tanks around to do away with the lines of sight. At least it seems that would be the best approach.
on a side note.......she has picked carpintis escondido for the 135. Smaller, slightly less aggressive and more comfortable in warmer conditions. Thanks to everyone who has shared info! learned a lot and it just doesn't seem like the time is right for Beani right now. To be continued...........
I feel a little like the grinch here, but feel it's my duty to warn...carpintus are very close to beani, as far as aggression goes, once mature.
Up until a few days ago, I had a compatible pair of carpintus, that have been together since they were about an inch, and have spawned twice over the last couple months.
because they seemed so compatible I had foregone my self imposed divider rule.
Just before spawning, the male took out 5 or so other cichlids, and few days ago with fry still in the tank, he literally tore her a new a#s hole. I found her dead, with the lower part of her body gone.
He will/would tolerate no other cichlid in the tank, just a little heads up, for the sanctity of your marriage.
by the way, just after his spree, I dropped him into a 6 ft tank ruled by a very alpha Paratilapia, more than 1/3rd larger than the carpintus, and within 5 minutes, the carpintus had the Paratilapia cowering in an upper corner.
Up until a few days ago, I had a compatible pair of carpintus, that have been together since they were about an inch, and have spawned twice over the last couple months.
because they seemed so compatible I had foregone my self imposed divider rule.
Just before spawning, the male took out 5 or so other cichlids, and few days ago with fry still in the tank, he literally tore her a new a#s hole. I found her dead, with the lower part of her body gone.
He will/would tolerate no other cichlid in the tank, just a little heads up, for the sanctity of your marriage.
by the way, just after his spree, I dropped him into a 6 ft tank ruled by a very alpha Paratilapia, more than 1/3rd larger than the carpintus, and within 5 minutes, the carpintus had the Paratilapia cowering in an upper corner.
