Nandopsis haitiensis
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They are not for beginners, prone to bloat at small sizes, get big around14-16", grow relatively slow, best kept as wet pets or pairs, really mean, personable, females are black/darker hence the name black nasty. I've never had one, but that is what i've read and they are an awesome fish. I'll probably be picking some up this summer.
orbit;2922435; said:
Yeah, I just got one recently. He's a really cool little fish and eating heartily. So far I haven't had any bloat issues. He's grown about an inch and pushing about 3" now.
Been keeping them for a few years now. They are not community fish, if they can't kill their tankmates, the stress of not being top dog kills them.
When small they seem to need higher temps than most other ciclids tolerate.
When full grown the can surpass 14", my male below is almost there.
The female is a bit smaller
Either way, I wouldn't keep them in anything smaller than 100 gallons as adults.
When small they seem to need higher temps than most other ciclids tolerate.
When full grown the can surpass 14", my male below is almost there.
The female is a bit smaller
Either way, I wouldn't keep them in anything smaller than 100 gallons as adults.
I grew some up a while ago and did not have any issues with them. Bloat IMO for CA cichlids is stress related and not food related. I kept 12 haitiensis at about 1/2" in a 80 gallon tank with lots of pots and rocks and wood and they all had there own spots and would eat all kinds of food even frozen bloodworms, brine shrimp but there staple was flake and pellet foods. Once they got to about 2" I sold 10 and kept 2. Big mistake. The more dominant 1 beat up the other within 30 minutes so bad that I had to rescue him. The next morning I found him with a huge bloated belly, mouth wide open, dead on the bottom. Then I sold of the last 1 but he didn't make it for long. I had the same experience with bartoni and beani. They all eat and do very well but once they are stressed and start hiding in stress colors because of tank mates or whatever reason change there tank mates or enviroment and try everything possible to make them comfortable.
I kept mine at about 82 degrees with a pH of about 8
I kept mine at about 82 degrees with a pH of about 8
I Had three babies i kept with jags,chipokea, and red devils all were about two inches i kept in a 55 gallon. There diet was pellets, blood worms, flakes and raw shrimp. I power feed all my baby fish but i keep the temp high in the tank none of my Odo's died my male found a female at 5 inches then i sold the pair. They are great fish i have some right now and cant wait to get another pair.
duanes;2922543; said:
I've heard that a few times and have been thinking of selling mine for that reason. He's having to share a tank now with my pair of Festae. I probably made a mistake getting him.
Reiner;2922547; said:
I fully agree...I don't think it has anything to do with diet at all. I got 3 small haits a while back and fed them everything high in protein I had and they thrived...well until the dominant one of the group doubled the other 2 in size and killed them. then that guy died when I had no other choice but to move him to my 125 that had various larger cichlids..none of which were overly dominant but apparently not being top dog got the better of him.
I also believe that aeration has a lot to do with it. I did about 30% water changes but had extra filtration as well as a powerhead on the tank. Haits and several Thorichtys (also prone to bloat) are often found in fast flowing rivers. A fast flowing river is going to have a much higher oxygen content than a lake so I believe that these fish require additional aeration in the form of an airstone or powerhead to provide the oxygen-rich water that will allow them to thrive.
Get some. Take the advice you have been given above and get some. I'd add that you may want to do some large water chanes often. Gotta know you will end up with one or a pair and tankmates aren't in the cards.
Video of mine. He is a cool fish to own.
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/vegdoc/?action=view¤t=VID00001-1.flv
Video of mine. He is a cool fish to own.
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/vegdoc/?action=view¤t=VID00001-1.flv