Need help ASAP! Is this ich or fungus?

[andre07]

I am treating them with Seachem Cupramine for 3 days now. Initially I'm thinking it was either Ich or Velvet that's why I use a copper sulfate medication. I'm doing a daily 50% WC to keep up with the water parameters, the temperature is at 88°F. They are swimming alright but not eating. Here are some pictures.
Hoping for your inputs.

 

[duanes]

That's ich
not fungus
treat accordingly

 

[andre07]

This is a very resistant type of ich,I'm running the temps from 88 and close to 90 for 3 days with seachem cupramine. I hope they fall off already.

 

[Aquanero]

What occurred that caused this? Anything else other than Discus in the tank?

 

[duanes]

If it were me, I would not rely on temp alone.
I have had temp resistant strains of ich, and withholding a chemical treatment such as malachite, only hastened epidemic, secondary infection, and massive die off.

 

[spiff44]

That seems like a heavy infection. I'm curious.. how long did it take for them to get that covered?

And good luck.. break outs suck.

 

[andre07]

What occurred that caused this? Anything else other than Discus in the tank?

They are in my quarantine together with a clown loach, 2 cories, 2 rams and 3 hatchets.
The 3 discus are just 5 days with me. The guy where I bought it told me it was imported from Indonesia. I'm thinking it was so stressed and carried the parasites too. The rest of the fishes are in quarantine for almost 2 weeks. Only the hatchets are infected by it, the rest are fine.

 

[andre07]

That seems like a heavy infection. I'm curious.. how long did it take for them to get that covered?

And good luck.. break outs suck.

I know, just the 2nd day they showed the symptoms and it goes full blast from there overnight.

 

[andre07]

If it were me, I would not rely on temp alone.
I have had temp resistant strains of ich, and withholding a chemical treatment such as malachite, only hastened epidemic, secondary infection, and massive die off.

So seachem cupramine is not effective for this? That is what I'm using for 2 days now, I only see a small portion of the white spots gone with the discus. But one hatchet is clear now this afternoon.
I'm a bit leery to add another chemical in the tank because cupramine is toxic if mixed with other meds as what as I was told.

 

[duanes]

cupramine should be effective.
Ich needs to run its course, and often looks worse before it gets better.
Vacuuming substrate with any water change helps rid of unhatched cysts.
when I treat, I treat everyday for 3 days, do a major water changes and start over.