need HELP with cuban cichlids

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With cubans, once they stop eating they will eventually get the bloated look, right before they die. When I treated these guys, I placed them in a 5 gallon with plenty of oxygen. I raised the temp to 86 and used epsom salt. I did 50 percent water changes daily while adding epsom salt accordingly. I did this for 3-5 days. During this time, do NOT feed the fish. I lost some, but most would start eating again, and were moved (they should be moved to a quarantine take where they can be nourished back which is an even longer process. They can always loose their appetite again, so this stage is critical.)

This is the most succesful way I treated my cubans. With some, you will have to repeat the process. I did this a few times using metro also. I only used metro for the nicer fish over 2" since metro is more expensive than epsom salt.

It looks like you are already doing this with the epsom salt and metro. Just keep up with the water changes and correct dosing. But, more imporatantly, do NOT feed them until they have gone through 3-5 days treatment. 3-5 days depending one how active and stressed they become. Not all fish (cubans) are healthy enough at this size to make 5 days in the epsom salt.
 
i thought about moving them to a smaller tank but didnt want them all cramped up. they are still active and ppl responsive. the 2 bigger ones are really territorial so i think moving them might be a bad idea. i guess ill just keep doing the water changes and hope they make it.
 
I think WRWC is on the money with everything he said.
Haitiensus and tetracanthus are very close cousins, geographically and are suseptable to the same stressors.
Medications are marginal when dealing with bloat, and sounds like thats what your Cubans have.
I would separate the 2 from each other and any other cichlids, add epsom salts to help purge their guts.
A small tank is not a bad thing.
Once they have bloat chances for survival are slim, but if they get through it, they seem hardier in the end.
There is a theory that stress causes their normal bodies bacterial flora and fauna to go out of wack and cause the disease.
I have had both hairiensus and tetracanthus spawn for me, and it seems it doesn't always take something obvious to stress them out. especially when young.
I believe high temps are important when young from collection data I have read, some accounts have temps around 90'F
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