need some help

[frnchjeep]

Thats a nice system

I got the results of the cultures back, and it said that everything found was a secondary infection. There wasn't anything that was a primary cause.

I should be getting the results of the water tests tomorrow (they were closed today because of the holiday). It has been several days now that the 10 gallon has been running without a problem. The fish in the r.o. water are actually healing now. There HAS to be something wrong with the tap water. I'm sick of waiting for them to tell me whats wrong. I need to know soon. The water in the 220 is getting murkey!! I did a small water change in the 220 the other day by stuffing a 2 liter bottle with the filter pads that remove the metals. I stuck the hose in the top of the bottle and cut holes in the bottom, allowing the water to flow through the filter pads before going into the tank. . I don't know if it helped or not, but I an scared to do a big water change before I find out what is going on.

 

[Red Devil]

Thats a nice system

I got the results of the cultures back, and it said that everything found was a secondary infection. There wasn't anything that was a primary cause.

I should be getting the results of the water tests tomorrow (they were closed today because of the holiday). It has been several days now that the 10 gallon has been running without a problem. The fish in the r.o. water are actually healing now. There HAS to be something wrong with the tap water. I'm sick of waiting for them to tell me whats wrong. I need to know soon. The water in the 220 is getting murkey!! I did a small water change in the 220 the other day by stuffing a 2 liter bottle with the filter pads that remove the metals. I stuck the hose in the top of the bottle and cut holes in the bottom, allowing the water to flow through the filter pads before going into the tank. . I don't know if it helped or not, but I an scared to do a big water change before I find out what is going on.

i do not blame you for being afraid to do a big water change in the 220gal..but maybe you should continue to a few small ones.. the waste from fish is enough to start a problem.. looking forward to you finding out what went wrong.. it is a long time to be sitting on pins and needles until you know..maybe today!! good luck and keep me posted

 

[frnchjeep]

O.K. I got the results of the water test a few days ago. It came back with some suprising results. I sent them a sample of tap water and a sample of water from the tank with the problems. They said that the tap water is fine, and the tank water had extremely high chlorine. I have no idea how that is possible. Some people that I talked to said that the tap could have had high chlorine for a little while and accumulated in the tank with every water change. It could have been back to normal by the time I got a sample. My test kit does chlorine, but I have never used it because I just assumed the dechlorinator was doing it's job.

This is what has me confused:

I use a dechlorinator(stress coat). I usually use more than required,too. The fish get some scratches during the water change from being freaked out, so I add a little extra to help them heal.

From what I understand, chlorine dosen't accumulate, it evaporates over time. This tank had 4 HOB's and heavy airation. There was plenty of surface agitation and airation. Chlorine shouldn't have lasted long if it was getting in there.

After I got the results back, I tested the chlorine in my 220 and it tested 0. The 220 and the 90 were on the same water change schedule (50% once a week). How could the 220 be O.K. and the 90 be so out of wack?

I tested the tap water and it tested 0. How could it change so drasticly and so fast?

Any ideas how I got these results?

 

[Red Devil]

wow

 

[guppy]

O.K. I got the results of the water test a few days ago. It came back with some suprising results. I sent them a sample of tap water and a sample of water from the tank with the problems. They said that the tap water is fine, and the tank water had extremely high chlorine. I have no idea how that is possible. Some people that I talked to said that the tap could have had high chlorine for a little while and accumulated in the tank with every water change. It could have been back to normal by the time I got a sample. My test kit does chlorine, but I have never used it because I just assumed the dechlorinator was doing it's job.

This is what has me confused:

I use a dechlorinator(stress coat). I usually use more than required,too. The fish get some scratches during the water change from being freaked out, so I add a little extra to help them heal.

From what I understand, chlorine dosen't accumulate, it evaporates over time. This tank had 4 HOB's and heavy airation. There was plenty of surface agitation and airation. Chlorine shouldn't have lasted long if it was getting in there.

After I got the results back, I tested the chlorine in my 220 and it tested 0. The 220 and the 90 were on the same water change schedule (50% once a week). How could the 220 be O.K. and the 90 be so out of wack?

I tested the tap water and it tested 0. How could it change so drasticly and so fast?

Any ideas how I got these results?

I can think of two things that could cause this, both of which I have unfortunely experienced first hand.
The first is that some water treatment systems periodical overdose on chlorine if there has been an e. coli outbreak.
The second is that many systems that have been using straight chlorine have now gone to a chorine and chloramine combination and while the chlorine rapidly breaks down, chloramine is pretty persistant and far more stable. Some types of dechlorinator do not touch it. Check to see if the dechlorinator that you use specifically breaks down chloramine, if not switch to one that does. This happened to me several years back when the water company switched products.

 

[Red Devil]

I can think of two things that could cause this, both of which I have unfortunely experienced first hand.
The first is that some water treatment systems periodical overdose on chlorine if there has been an e. coli outbreak.
The second is that many systems that have been using straight chlorine have now gone to a chorine and chloramine combination and while the chlorine rapidly breaks down, chloramine is pretty persistant and far more stable. Some types of dechlorinator do not touch it. Check to see if the dechlorinator that you use specifically breaks down chloramine, if not switch to one that does. This happened to me several years back when the water company switched products.

unbelievable..i hope you did not lose fish too?

 

[guppy]

Both times a lost a small tank full of community fish.

 

[frnchjeep]

I can think of two things that could cause this, both of which I have unfortunely experienced first hand.
The first is that some water treatment systems periodical overdose on chlorine if there has been an e. coli outbreak.

That explains a lot because the culture results came back with something closely related to e. coli. If that is the case, could I expect another spike in the future, or is it a one time thing?