Nelson Calls For Python Hunt In Fla

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A) There is absolutely no way humans will ever intervene and completely remove the feral Pythons from Florida… They have already established themselves and they are too good at avoiding us and finding each other.

B) I’m sure they will kill more local native specimen than they will feral snakes thus creating more of an imbalance than a balance…

C) Since more people fear snakes than care for them, it’s a great political move on his part… Although it’s a darn shame if one cent of tax payers money is wasted on such a venture as the States Staff Biologists/Conversationalists/etc can easily explain the efforts are futile…
 
if you think about the big picture, they don't belong there and they need to be removed. as for killing them, i don't think that is important as long as they are responsibly dealt with.... give them to breeders, relocate them to native locations, relocate them to zoos. But realistically, who would pay for all that? Most likely, they will have to die :(
 
nc_nutcase;3284746; said:
A) There is absolutely no way humans will ever intervene and completely remove the feral Pythons from Florida… They have already established themselves and they are too good at avoiding us and finding each other.

B) I’m sure they will kill more local native specimen than they will feral snakes thus creating more of an imbalance than a balance…

C) Since more people fear snakes than care for them, it’s a great political move on his part… Although it’s a darn shame if one cent of tax payers money is wasted on such a venture as the States Staff Biologists/Conversationalists/etc can easily explain the efforts are futile…
its tough to mistake a python from native florida species. have you ever seen the snakes around here? a python stands out like a sore thumb
 
dirtyblacksocks;3282479; said:
That girl was killed by a pet, though. Not a wild/feral animal that had been released - it's a different argument at that point, and just as much the fault of the parents for keeping an animal big enough to see their kid as a prey item.

Right. And just IMO but invasive's are the price you pay for living in FL. You had gators to begin with. Now you got another predator. Either keep a good watch on stuff that's edible or move. Not a boatload you can do about it.

nc_nutcase;3284746; said:
A) There is absolutely no way humans will ever intervene and completely remove the feral Pythons from Florida… They have already established themselves and they are too good at avoiding us and finding each other.


Agree. You'd have to come up with a plan to kill everything there even the native species and I bet they would still make a come back. Just like snakeheads in the potomac. It's to the point where we just live with them.
 
swede;3284786; said:
its tough to mistake a python from native florida species. have you ever seen the snakes around here? a python stands out like a sore thumb

While I agree just about anyone can easily distinguish a Garter Snake from an adult Burmese Python...

What percentage of the people going out on this snake hunt will shoot first and identify later? I'm sure quite a few shots will be taken at slithering grass with the snake itself barely being seen...


Keep in mind here we are talking about deputized citizens and volunteers… not Park Rangers…
 
nc_nutcase;3284843; said:
While I agree just about anyone can easily distinguish a Garter Snake from an adult Burmese Python...

What percentage of the people going out on this snake hunt will shoot first and identify later? I'm sure quite a few shots will be taken at slithering grass with the snake itself barely being seen...


Keep in mind here we are talking about deputized citizens and volunteers… not Park Rangers…

So true . Not to mention many WANT to shoot/kill REGARDLESS of python or not . All snakes are bad to some in Florida.

I have been there many times not only have I not seen a python and have spoken to game wardens there who have never seen a python but while back a lady (bird watching club) was screaming "A python a python".

I said to myself FINALLY a python pic lol :naughty:but low and behold it was a 6 foot corn snake on a branch.

There is an office you report python sightings there and I suspect many of the reports are the big corns/yellow ratsnakes.

The vast majority of people who go there sight seeing are not reptile type people any big snake is a python in their eyes.
 
swede;3284786; said:
its tough to mistake a python from native florida species. have you ever seen the snakes around here? a python stands out like a sore thumb


I agree a 15 foot python stands out compared to a 6 foot old mottled corn but both being 6 feet to many non snake people its the same snake.

I agree they are not native they dont belong there but no way they will stop them to late now. The glades and other areas you simply cant access be boat .horse,etc.

You have to wade through miles of 2 feet mud ,sinking grass with dense tree's . I know where your coming from so keep in mind this is just my opinion which is- The damage they do is very limited and senator Nelson is he was in the slightest concerned about native Glades Fauna would fight to stop construction all around it .

He would also address the zillion feral cats that you see everywhere around 7 pm the cats come out of the woodwork .

Those 2 things are the real killer of native fauna but that he wont even talk about.

Florida is even considering a road through cyprus swamp area which is last stronghold of Florida panthers so for him to say he cares at all about natives is absurd.

He is TERRIFIED of snakes and that is the real issue.

Again your correct they dont belong there I just dont see them being removed and dont see them 1/100th the threat that the brigade of feral cats are to native birds,smaller snakes.
 
if you have ever been to the everglades, its not much land at all. it looks more like a really shallow lake with a bunch of swampy areas. the snakes in that area are very small. i really do agree with you that this will not do much more than dent the population for a short time. there are far too many breeding pythons in the everglades and there are too many areas of the everglades they will not be able to reach.
 
dirtyblacksocks;3284609; said:
What is a predator for an 18 foot burmese python in the Everglades? The only thing that even comes close is a 8 foot gator to the best of my knowledge.
a gator most likely would not go for a python. its more likely to be the other way around. and since they are not native to the ecosystem, they have no predators.
 
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