New 125 all male peacock and Hap tank

[The Morning]

The majority of my deaths are to stupidity. Either mine of the fishes. Lost a few to jumping out of the tank. Lost a venustus recently that had eyes bigger than it’s mouth. Found that guy belly up with a small fish tail sticking out of its mouth. Just ordered a white lip that I released, swam to the bottom of the tank and wedged himself between two rocks. Dead before I could get to him. Other than that I have been fairly lucky.

 

[ryang85]

The majority of my deaths are to stupidity. Either mine of the fishes. Lost a few to jumping out of the tank. Lost a venustus recently that had eyes bigger than it’s mouth. Found that guy belly up with a small fish tail sticking out of its mouth. Just ordered a white lip that I released, swam to the bottom of the tank and wedged himself between two rocks. Dead before I could get to him. Other than that I have been fairly lucky.

I lost a lot of fish when I first started due to my own lack of patience. I often didn't quarantine because I wanted to see my new fish in the big tank. After one order a while ago I had a few bad waves of ich and parasites and learned my lesson, I didn't loose anyone directly from ich but in almost certain it resulted in both of my female venustus getting severe parasites and dying.
Since then I've had very few deaths, outside the QT tank. Sometimes ill get a fish that stops eating but a 6 day stay in the hospital tank usually solves the problem.
Strangly I've never had an adult male die, only juveniles and females, even in all female tanks. Some of my fish are getting pretty old so I assume in the next few years I will loose some of my big males.

 

[DJRansome]

Wow that is actually amazing to me ryang. I very rarely lose fish that I buy at LFS and even have better odds from online purchase.

Plus one. If the fish arrive alive they stay alive. And 99% arrive alive. If I have any fish deaths it is as they mature if I don't remove extra males fast enough.

 

[Eric1115]

Whoops I made a typo. If 90% of my ordered fish died I would be very broke. I'd say about 5% don't make it. I probably loose about 1 in every 20 juvenile fish during the QT period.

I meant 90% of my overall fish deaths occur on fish within a month of being recieved. Once they establish themselves in the tank they seem to thrive and not get to sick.

LOL, scared me there a little. I definitely learned my lesson and will QT all future fish. Too much $ invested to risk it.

I guess I have been very lucky before this time, all these years, first fish die from bloat.

Thanks

 

[A201]

I've never medicated an African Cichlid tank. That's not to say that murders & suicides haven't occured. Lol.

 

[Eric1115]

Wow that is actually amazing to me ryang. I very rarely lose fish that I buy at LFS and even have better odds from online purchase.

I was buying from my LFS because they do have a lot of variety and price is good, but after multiple death and sick fish. I am going to avoid it. Plus i brought a bunch juiced fish from them before I realized a female fish after juiced can look like a make, fully colored with pointy fin. Now some of them has lost all the color and the fin reverted back to being round.

I am ordering online now, more expensive but the fish seems more healthy, except that one Mylochromis who never ate from day one.

 

[The Morning]

I have been lucky with my online orders. Fish always arrive healthy and appear to be decent specimens. These are my last two purchases.

 

[Eric1115]

I have been lucky with my online orders. Fish always arrive healthy and appear to be decent specimens. These are my last two purchases.

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I wonder if adult fish handles shipping worst than juvie.

My issue here is none of my LFS gives any credits for fish or trade. So buying juvie means I have to grow out and donate to them all the females and extra males for free. In the end, it will cost me the same as buying adult male. Unless I just buy 1 juvie at a time and grow out hoping to be a male but that too time consuming and the shipping cost is too much.

I wish I can buy juvie and watch them grow. That’s what I did with my MBun

 

[The Morning]

The two above were guaranteed male but I have no idea how that can be as they were only about 2 inches when I got them.

 

[Eric1115]

The two above were guaranteed male but I have no idea how that can be as they were only about 2 inches when I got them.

True, 2 inch I think is still too small to tell, hence I buy most of mine at least at 3+ inch and some of the larger hap I buy at 5+. I might give it a try with the juvie again once I get the larger tank and move all these into it. Then I am thinking of doing mix sex tank, then I can worry a little less of the sex. Still need to take out the extra male but less fish to re-home. Maybe a Pacidochromis Mdoka White Lips and Fosso? Although I think the Fosso might be too big for 125.