New 180g Tank Mysteries....

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could it be something (residue) on the glass? or in filter media or on other equipments?
you just have to test them out one by one if you want to find out the source. run them in a smaller container one by one and see what is causing it.
 
jp80911;4239480; said:
could it be something (residue) on the glass? or in filter media or on other equipments?
you just have to test them out one by one if you want to find out the source. run them in a smaller container one by one and see what is causing it.

Hmm.... good idea... But is this a known problem for big tanks? that PH rises or drops cause most of it is new primed water? then after a few weeks or months the water stables down to another PH again?
 
More water, More bacteria, More Ph, So a longer time to settle itself.
*natural ph balancers are always good to have if you plan to keep a certain biotype.
*What is causing the problem is lack of phosphates. The most important factor involved here is that you keep your fish in the same constant peramiters. I would go natural with a couple big chunks of driftwood, Peat moss is also a nutural buffer. Seashells coral ceramic will raise ph. No2 pumps work well to lower ph from what ive heard as well.
Or you could just say f*ck it mate, and go with some africans :D
 
Cliff.W.;4239486; said:
Hmm.... good idea... But is this a known problem for big tanks? that PH rises or drops cause most of it is new primed water? then after a few weeks or months the water stables down to another PH again?

could be, my first 180g had pretty high pH to begin with (8.5-8.7) even my tap water is 7 but that could be because of the substrate I used. didn't feel like change out the substrate so I just let it ran for couple months with lots of small fish and plants and driftwoods and the pH was back to around 7.
 
If the 8 PH is permanent in my 180g tank then I'll add drift into the tank and bring it down. I'm just afraid that if whatever is causing the PH to rise right now all of a suddent dissapears and lowers the PH on its own and at the same time i have the drift inside tank lowering the PH even more then my fish would die out.
 
Cliff.W.;4239603; said:
If the 8 PH is permanent in my 180g tank then I'll add drift into the tank and bring it down. I'm just afraid that if whatever is causing the PH to rise right now all of a suddent dissapears and lowers the PH on its own and at the same time i have the drift inside tank lowering the PH even more then my fish would die out.

You dont have to worry about the driftwood dropping the Ph drasticly. Its a rather slow process to slowly soften water. Id guess max youd see the Ph drop .5 in a week. Driftwood cant hurt and it always looks great in tanks. Id go ahead and get some drift because im assuming you water is relativly hard around ur parts. Pretty much all woods have the same properties. Check you LFS and if nothing blows your dress up, ebay got niiiiice looking rooted pieces of wood. Tie on some Anacharis and that will definatly help regulate things. Scaleless fish like loaches can easily surcome to changes in ph. Avoid chemicals. Your Ph is high because of what the tank is lacking, not whats in the tank. Unless you have some crazy bioballs that are raising the ph like ive stated previously. Any alkalinity is a no no. Buffers help "keep" a steady ph tieing up alkaliods or acids. This will take care of your problem in less than 2 weeks.
 
Do you have other tanks? Do they have this problem with water changes?

Could be that with water changes, you add water with a high dissolved CO2. This will cause a pH drop (carbonic acid).
Take a bucket of tap water and check pH. Aerate the water for a day and check it again. If the pH goes up, this confirms high dissolved CO2.

Burt :)
 
Did u properly rinse all the media in the filter? i know the ac 110 rings can put out a lot of dust and crap when they are not fully washed out... so its a maybe just trying to help!
 
Gobrian44;4239811; said:
Did u properly rinse all the media in the filter? i know the ac 110 rings can put out a lot of dust and crap when they are not fully washed out... so its a maybe just trying to help!

yes i did rinse them out alot and also placed fine sponge to filter the dust out. My water was cloudy before but it is completely pristine clear now. thanks for thinking abotu that/.
 
Burtess;4239780; said:
Do you have other tanks? Do they have this problem with water changes?

Could be that with water changes, you add water with a high dissolved CO2. This will cause a pH drop (carbonic acid).
Take a bucket of tap water and check pH. Aerate the water for a day and check it again. If the pH goes up, this confirms high dissolved CO2.

Burt :)


Doing that tonight tested PH from TAP 7.6. and will test again in the morining and see what it is...
 
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