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once again thank you for the wisdom.
*****IMHO, if you can find it readily online and in numbers, it is trivia
Wisdom is a highly distilled and exalted thing.
I think I would even like to do a new thread and possibly even a profile for all my current fish, just to have fun with it.
*****That's the spirit.
(Kinda nervous that people will judge my tank as it is clearly overstocked)
*****You'll get some critique. I'd ignore rude ones and flame-throwers and be prepared to learn, defend yourself if necessary, and make changes if you find out you better.
Tbh I feel like my 180 is such a wimpy baby tank after being on this site for a week
*****All is relative, ain't it? Feelings are better left for our better halves as they are fleeting, often misleading and even meaningless.
She is a huge support in my aquaria journey. Always right there with a net, hose, hand full of towels or what ever I need right away..
******You're funny
Ok so it has been almost a week now and the cats are still super shy. One resides under a huge piece of driftwood and the other in a rock cave I made large enough I can see who ever is inside. So far my wife saw one of them do a lap around the tank but I still haven't seen any movement outside of typical fluttering.
*****Their confidence will grow with their size. Plus their acclimation is likely not over.
I added a smaller sized fluorescent light to simulate the sun going down before bedtime to try and encourage them to come out of hiding.
******No lights at all, just natural or electrical room lights is what I'd do. Catfish and light don't mix in general.
So far no success with the cats but my clown loaches are becoming more social after a 2 week dead period of not seeing them at all. I may have to move the cl's out of the 180 though because of their slow growth.
*****Achara catfish are pronounced scavengers, not predators. They'd need to be starved to start preying. There could be exceptions but I've not met one yet where a properly fed achara would prey on tank mates, no matter their size. My 2-footers are ok with 3" koi.
But unfortunately it looks like Ich is breaking out in my tank . Is salt the best to treat it? I have read that lots of ich meds don't work well. Any suggestions?
*****Ich breaks out very often on new fish. If not too extensive, it clears up on its own if one's tank water is pristine, oxygenated, etc. If the ich broke out on old fish, that likely means your bio filtration and/or water changes do not cope with the bio-load. There could be other stressors but these are the most common. Stress = immune system compromise = ich break out. Ich always lives on any fish but is kept in check by their healthy immune systems. Rid-Ich is an efficient medication. So is salt + heat. Consult the "Freshwater Diseases and Health Issues" forum stickie threads specific to ich in the list of all forums, same place where "General Aquaria Discussions" is.
*****IMHO, if you can find it readily online and in numbers, it is trivia
Wisdom is a highly distilled and exalted thing.I think I would even like to do a new thread and possibly even a profile for all my current fish, just to have fun with it.
*****That's the spirit.
(Kinda nervous that people will judge my tank as it is clearly overstocked)
*****You'll get some critique. I'd ignore rude ones and flame-throwers and be prepared to learn, defend yourself if necessary, and make changes if you find out you better.
Tbh I feel like my 180 is such a wimpy baby tank after being on this site for a week
*****All is relative, ain't it? Feelings are better left for our better halves as they are fleeting, often misleading and even meaningless.
She is a huge support in my aquaria journey. Always right there with a net, hose, hand full of towels or what ever I need right away..
******You're funny
Ok so it has been almost a week now and the cats are still super shy. One resides under a huge piece of driftwood and the other in a rock cave I made large enough I can see who ever is inside. So far my wife saw one of them do a lap around the tank but I still haven't seen any movement outside of typical fluttering.
*****Their confidence will grow with their size. Plus their acclimation is likely not over.
I added a smaller sized fluorescent light to simulate the sun going down before bedtime to try and encourage them to come out of hiding.
******No lights at all, just natural or electrical room lights is what I'd do. Catfish and light don't mix in general.
So far no success with the cats but my clown loaches are becoming more social after a 2 week dead period of not seeing them at all. I may have to move the cl's out of the 180 though because of their slow growth.
*****Achara catfish are pronounced scavengers, not predators. They'd need to be starved to start preying. There could be exceptions but I've not met one yet where a properly fed achara would prey on tank mates, no matter their size. My 2-footers are ok with 3" koi.
But unfortunately it looks like Ich is breaking out in my tank . Is salt the best to treat it? I have read that lots of ich meds don't work well. Any suggestions?
*****Ich breaks out very often on new fish. If not too extensive, it clears up on its own if one's tank water is pristine, oxygenated, etc. If the ich broke out on old fish, that likely means your bio filtration and/or water changes do not cope with the bio-load. There could be other stressors but these are the most common. Stress = immune system compromise = ich break out. Ich always lives on any fish but is kept in check by their healthy immune systems. Rid-Ich is an efficient medication. So is salt + heat. Consult the "Freshwater Diseases and Health Issues" forum stickie threads specific to ich in the list of all forums, same place where "General Aquaria Discussions" is.
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Hey tbtb, sorry so long since my last update. Been busy with all sorts of things.once again thank you for the wisdom.
*****IMHO, if you can find it readily online and in numbers, it is trivia
I think I would even like to do a new thread and possibly even a profile for all my current fish, just to have fun with it.
*****That's the spirit.
(Kinda nervous that people will judge my tank as it is clearly overstocked)
*****You'll get some critique. I'd ignore rude ones and flame-throwers and be prepared to learn, defend yourself if necessary, and make changes if you find out you better.
Tbh I feel like my 180 is such a wimpy baby tank after being on this site for a week
*****All is relative, ain't it? Feelings are better left for our better halves as they are fleeting, often misleading and even meaningless.
She is a huge support in my aquaria journey. Always right there with a net, hose, hand full of towels or what ever I need right away..
******You're funny
Ok so it has been almost a week now and the cats are still super shy. One resides under a huge piece of driftwood and the other in a rock cave I made large enough I can see who ever is inside. So far my wife saw one of them do a lap around the tank but I still haven't seen any movement outside of typical fluttering.
*****Their confidence will grow with their size. Plus their acclimation is likely not over.
I added a smaller sized fluorescent light to simulate the sun going down before bedtime to try and encourage them to come out of hiding.
******No lights at all, just natural or electrical room lights is what I'd do. Catfish and light don't mix in general.
So far no success with the cats but my clown loaches are becoming more social after a 2 week dead period of not seeing them at all. I may have to move the cl's out of the 180 though because of their slow growth.
*****Achara catfish are pronounced scavengers, not predators. They'd need to be starved to start preying. There could be exceptions but I've not met one yet where a properly fed achara would prey on tank mates, no matter their size. My 2-footers are ok with 3" koi.
But unfortunately it looks like Ich is breaking out in my tank . Is salt the best to treat it? I have read that lots of ich meds don't work well. Any suggestions?
*****Ich breaks out very often on new fish. If not too extensive, it clears up on its own if one's tank water is pristine, oxygenated, etc. If the ich broke out on old fish, that likely means your bio filtration and/or water changes do not cope with the bio-load. There could be other stressors but these are the most common. Stress = immune system compromise = ich break out. Ich always lives on any fish but is kept in check by their healthy immune systems. Rid-Ich is an efficient medication. So is salt + heat. Consult the "Freshwater Diseases and Health Issues" forum stickie threads specific to ich in the list of all forums, same place where "General Aquaria Discussions" is.
So the ich was really bad, probably the worst I have seen. I think part of it was because I had all of the worste culprits. Scaleless fish and my Oscar. I think there were a few factors that contributed. One being the sump filter that I have going was being a bugger on me and I had run the tank with out it for about 3 days. Unfortunately I didn't move my heater into the tank and the tank dropped temp. Now I see the importance of keeping the heat up. Oops. Learning curve here.
This has sent me on a journey of researching the crap out of ich. I have learned all kinds of stuff, including to always cross reference to make sure the info I am reading isn't hokey. Lots of funny opinions out there about... well everything.
I dosed my tank with copper before I got too far into the research. Since then I have used a rough, half dose of salt because I felt nervous about cranking up the salinity because of the acharas. I'm still unclear as to if they are sensitive or not. I also bumped up my temp to 85 for the last few days. I'm not sure why but it seems as if the temp has fluctuated a bit for some reason. So I need to look more into that.
It now currently seems as if I am only seeing a few ich spots left on one of my clown loaches and everyone else has cleared up. I was quite worried. The cl's and the acharas were covered in spots almost overnight. But it seems to have missed the blue botias for some reason or another.
I wanted to move the clown loaches into another tank because I was getting nervous about their size, but with the ich breakout I had to keep them in the main tank. And just as I suspected, the night all this was going down, I came upstairs and noticed my Oscar breathing heavy. So I started cussing because I knew what was happening. I turned the light on to see a smaller cl's in his mouth still breathing with the spines sticking out. . My wife and I were quite upset and were contemplating taking the Oscar out. After all the cussing was over I decided that the Oscar was only doing what is knows to do and it's ultimately my own fault for putting them in the same tank. So we keep dyson (like the vacuum cleaner) the Oscar still. And I still can't find the other small cl so now I am down to 2 cl's. Which sucks because I was trying to build their numbers so they could be happier.
In other news the acharas are doing great. One wasn't eating much as it was hiding still but has resumed a fairly regular diet. The other is a voracious eater and I'm sure has already grown an inch Such beautiful fish. I can see why people can get so attached to them. We are already talking through when the next tank upgrade will be. Lol
So the ich was really bad, probably the worst I have seen. I think part of it was because I had all of the worste culprits. Scaleless fish and my Oscar. I think there were a few factors that contributed. One being the sump filter that I have going was being a bugger on me and I had run the tank with out it for about 3 days. Unfortunately I didn't move my heater into the tank and the tank dropped temp. Now I see the importance of keeping the heat up. Oops. Learning curve here.
Great analytical work there. But how was the tank filtered for 3 days? Did ammonia and nitrite appear? Do you measure them? (Is the filter back in service?) I wonder if it was not only the temp drop that stressed the fish, weakening their immune system, which allowed for the ich breakout.
This has sent me on a journey of researching the crap out of ich. I have learned all kinds of stuff, including to always cross reference to make sure the info I am reading isn't hokey. Lots of funny opinions out there about... well everything.
Right, reader beware always. That's why I sent you to the sticky threads so you learn quickly. This info is filtered and reliable, comes from MFK experts.
I dosed my tank with copper before I got too far into the research. Since then I have used a rough, half dose of salt because I felt nervous about cranking up the salinity because of the acharas. I'm still unclear as to if they are sensitive or not. I also bumped up my temp to 85 for the last few days. I'm not sure why but it seems as if the temp has fluctuated a bit for some reason. So I need to look more into that.
I don't think catfish in general to be any more sensitive to salt than scaled fish. It is the mucus layer that protects both, not scales, which are more for physical protection. But this could be too simplistic of a view.
It now currently seems as if I am only seeing a few ich spots left on one of my clown loaches and everyone else has cleared up. I was quite worried. The cl's and the acharas were covered in spots almost overnight. But it seems to have missed the blue botias for some reason or another.
Clown loaches are known as ich magnets for a reason. Blue botias might be more tolerant of cooler temps (check it please)... which also tells me that it wasn't ammonia and nitrite as the primary causes of your fish stress and the ensuing trouble but rather the temp drop, more likely.
I wanted to move the clown loaches into another tank because I was getting nervous about their size, but with the ich breakout I had to keep them in the main tank. And just as I suspected, the night all this was going down, I came upstairs and noticed my Oscar breathing heavy. So I started cussing because I knew what was happening. I turned the light on to see a smaller cl's in his mouth still breathing with the spines sticking out. . My wife and I were quite upset and were contemplating taking the Oscar out. After all the cussing was over I decided that the Oscar was only doing what is knows to do and it's ultimately my own fault for putting them in the same tank. So we keep dyson (like the vacuum cleaner) the Oscar still. And I still can't find the other small cl so now I am down to 2 cl's. Which sucks because I was trying to build their numbers so they could be happier.
Yea, maybe I missed that you had tiny cl's with an oscar. I thought you wanted to move them out on the account of the acharas. Oscar is a predator. What happened was quite predictable.
In other news the acharas are doing great. One wasn't eating much as it was hiding still but has resumed a fairly regular diet. The other is a voracious eater and I'm sure has already grown an inch Such beautiful fish. I can see why people can get so attached to them. We are already talking through when the next tank upgrade will be. Lol
Excellent! MFKers are not always born instantly with ample space, large disposable income (or time for DIY-ers), and a lack of obstacles. Sometimes it takes years or decades to get there
Great analytical work there. But how was the tank filtered for 3 days? Did ammonia and nitrite appear? Do you measure them? (Is the filter back in service?) I wonder if it was not only the temp drop that stressed the fish, weakening their immune system, which allowed for the ich breakout.
This has sent me on a journey of researching the crap out of ich. I have learned all kinds of stuff, including to always cross reference to make sure the info I am reading isn't hokey. Lots of funny opinions out there about... well everything.
Right, reader beware always. That's why I sent you to the sticky threads so you learn quickly. This info is filtered and reliable, comes from MFK experts.
I dosed my tank with copper before I got too far into the research. Since then I have used a rough, half dose of salt because I felt nervous about cranking up the salinity because of the acharas. I'm still unclear as to if they are sensitive or not. I also bumped up my temp to 85 for the last few days. I'm not sure why but it seems as if the temp has fluctuated a bit for some reason. So I need to look more into that.
I don't think catfish in general to be any more sensitive to salt than scaled fish. It is the mucus layer that protects both, not scales, which are more for physical protection. But this could be too simplistic of a view.
It now currently seems as if I am only seeing a few ich spots left on one of my clown loaches and everyone else has cleared up. I was quite worried. The cl's and the acharas were covered in spots almost overnight. But it seems to have missed the blue botias for some reason or another.
Clown loaches are known as ich magnets for a reason. Blue botias might be more tolerant of cooler temps (check it please)... which also tells me that it wasn't ammonia and nitrite as the primary causes of your fish stress and the ensuing trouble but rather the temp drop, more likely.
I wanted to move the clown loaches into another tank because I was getting nervous about their size, but with the ich breakout I had to keep them in the main tank. And just as I suspected, the night all this was going down, I came upstairs and noticed my Oscar breathing heavy. So I started cussing because I knew what was happening. I turned the light on to see a smaller cl's in his mouth still breathing with the spines sticking out. . My wife and I were quite upset and were contemplating taking the Oscar out. After all the cussing was over I decided that the Oscar was only doing what is knows to do and it's ultimately my own fault for putting them in the same tank. So we keep dyson (like the vacuum cleaner) the Oscar still. And I still can't find the other small cl so now I am down to 2 cl's. Which sucks because I was trying to build their numbers so they could be happier.
Yea, maybe I missed that you had tiny cl's with an oscar. I thought you wanted to move them out on the account of the acharas. Oscar is a predator. What happened was quite predictable.
In other news the acharas are doing great. One wasn't eating much as it was hiding still but has resumed a fairly regular diet. The other is a voracious eater and I'm sure has already grown an inch Such beautiful fish. I can see why people can get so attached to them. We are already talking through when the next tank upgrade will be. Lol
Excellent! MFKers are not always born instantly with ample space, large disposable income (or time for DIY-ers), and a lack of obstacles. Sometimes it takes years or decades to get there
Thanks for your quick response. I have an fx5 canister in tandem with the sump. This is my first time using a sump so I am still getting my bearings on its intricacies. It is based off of a wet/dry trickle sump from diy king design. Very unsightly and super finicky. I'm still not sure if I like it. The person who built it( I got the tank used and it came with his set up) did the pvc overflow backward. So it was a challenge just to figure out how to get it primed. But after trial and error my wife and I think we have it figured out. I have probably invested around 20 hrs into this sump alone. A question I do have in regards to this set up if anyone has used this or is currently. One of the media compartments is made up of plastic fish scrubbie pads, is this a good enough replacement for bio balls? I assume that is what they are there for. It came with a handful of the scrubbies and I felt I could do better so I bought another 60 and rinsed them out thoroughly and then soaked them in live nitrifiers before adding them to the media box. Hoping that some of the good bacteria would have a place to stick. Then about a week later ich.So the ich was really bad, probably the worst I have seen. I think part of it was because I had all of the worste culprits. Scaleless fish and my Oscar. I think there were a few factors that contributed. One being the sump filter that I have going was being a bugger on me and I had run the tank with out it for about 3 days. Unfortunately I didn't move my heater into the tank and the tank dropped temp. Now I see the importance of keeping the heat up. Oops. Learning curve here.
Great analytical work there. But how was the tank filtered for 3 days? Did ammonia and nitrite appear? Do you measure them? (Is the filter back in service?) I wonder if it was not only the temp drop that stressed the fish, weakening their immune system, which allowed for the ich breakout.
This has sent me on a journey of researching the crap out of ich. I have learned all kinds of stuff, including to always cross reference to make sure the info I am reading isn't hokey. Lots of funny opinions out there about... well everything.
Right, reader beware always. That's why I sent you to the sticky threads so you learn quickly. This info is filtered and reliable, comes from MFK experts.
I dosed my tank with copper before I got too far into the research. Since then I have used a rough, half dose of salt because I felt nervous about cranking up the salinity because of the acharas. I'm still unclear as to if they are sensitive or not. I also bumped up my temp to 85 for the last few days. I'm not sure why but it seems as if the temp has fluctuated a bit for some reason. So I need to look more into that.
I don't think catfish in general to be any more sensitive to salt than scaled fish. It is the mucus layer that protects both, not scales, which are more for physical protection. But this could be too simplistic of a view.
It now currently seems as if I am only seeing a few ich spots left on one of my clown loaches and everyone else has cleared up. I was quite worried. The cl's and the acharas were covered in spots almost overnight. But it seems to have missed the blue botias for some reason or another.
Clown loaches are known as ich magnets for a reason. Blue botias might be more tolerant of cooler temps (check it please)... which also tells me that it wasn't ammonia and nitrite as the primary causes of your fish stress and the ensuing trouble but rather the temp drop, more likely.
I wanted to move the clown loaches into another tank because I was getting nervous about their size, but with the ich breakout I had to keep them in the main tank. And just as I suspected, the night all this was going down, I came upstairs and noticed my Oscar breathing heavy. So I started cussing because I knew what was happening. I turned the light on to see a smaller cl's in his mouth still breathing with the spines sticking out. . My wife and I were quite upset and were contemplating taking the Oscar out. After all the cussing was over I decided that the Oscar was only doing what is knows to do and it's ultimately my own fault for putting them in the same tank. So we keep dyson (like the vacuum cleaner) the Oscar still. And I still can't find the other small cl so now I am down to 2 cl's. Which sucks because I was trying to build their numbers so they could be happier.
Yea, maybe I missed that you had tiny cl's with an oscar. I thought you wanted to move them out on the account of the acharas. Oscar is a predator. What happened was quite predictable.
In other news the acharas are doing great. One wasn't eating much as it was hiding still but has resumed a fairly regular diet. The other is a voracious eater and I'm sure has already grown an inch Such beautiful fish. I can see why people can get so attached to them. We are already talking through when the next tank upgrade will be. Lol
Excellent! MFKers are not always born instantly with ample space, large disposable income (or time for DIY-ers), and a lack of obstacles. Sometimes it takes years or decades to get there
I think the temp drop was a few days before the blue botias were added. I just assumed if some contracted the parasite all would.
I was worried for the cl's in general because it seems everyone is growing rapidly except them. I am currently hoping that the remaining cl's will last the next 2 weeks of quarantine and I can put them in another tank to grow out. I'm tempted to even just contaminate another tank with them and start immediate treatment in hopes to save them from the deadly hunter who is currently stalking them as we speak. Sigh. They lived together for months previously. Now they have been moved into the 180 it seems as if all the fishes personality have changed. In heinsight I wish I would have just left the cl's in the old tank.
I haven't checked my ammonia and nitrite levels in a while. I can do that tonight though. I have a load of maintenance to do tonight. Lol.
...I have probably invested around 20 hrs into this sump alone.
Do you have a better use for your time?
A question I do have in regards to this set up if anyone has used this or is currently. One of the media compartments is made up of plastic fish scrubbie pads, is this a good enough replacement for bio balls? I assume that is what they are there for. It came with a handful of the scrubbies and I felt I could do better so I bought another 60 and rinsed them out thoroughly and then soaked them in live nitrifiers before adding them to the media box. Hoping that some of the good bacteria would have a place to stick. Then about a week later ich.
Sounds like it could be the mechanical filter compartment, though I don't know what a "fish scrubbie pad" exactly is. A nylon mesh pot scrubber? That's what is commonly used for biomedia. I've just installed 7,000 of them in my shower tower filter for the koi exhibit.
I think the temp drop was a few days before the blue botias were added. I just assumed if some contracted the parasite all would.
No. As I tried to explain earlier, a healthy and stress-free fish would not catch ich (they already have their own and their healthy immune system has it under control) unless I reckon it is a highly intense outbreak.
I was worried for the cl's in general because it seems everyone is growing rapidly except them. I am currently hoping that the remaining cl's will last the next 2 weeks of quarantine and I can put them in another tank to grow out.
Clown loaches grow exceedingly slowly, which is why the price grows super exponentially with their size. It seems to take 5-10 years for an average captive one to get up to 6"-8". I may be wrong. But it's really slow.
I'm tempted to even just contaminate another tank with them and start immediate treatment in hopes to save them from the deadly hunter who is currently stalking them as we speak. Sigh.
Per the foregoing, you will not contaminate anything as ich lives on all fish, kinda like the staphylococcus bacterial cultures in your own and everybody else's throat (which break out into a common cold when your immune system is compromised), unless the fish in your other tank are stressed and the introduction of a tiny touch of fresh ich is the last straw.
They lived together for months previously. Now they have been moved into the 180 it seems as if all the fishes personality have changed. In heinsight I wish I would have just left the cl's in the old tank.
Not too surprising. Every tank and every stock differs, often in significant ways and not rarely unpredictably.
I haven't checked my ammonia and nitrite levels in a while. I can do that tonight though. I have a load of maintenance to do tonight. Lol.
FWIW, I check ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and pH with an API Master Kit (liquid tests) and temperature always as the very first thing at the sign of any potentially health-related trouble.
HTH.
Do you have a better use for your time?
A question I do have in regards to this set up if anyone has used this or is currently. One of the media compartments is made up of plastic fish scrubbie pads, is this a good enough replacement for bio balls? I assume that is what they are there for. It came with a handful of the scrubbies and I felt I could do better so I bought another 60 and rinsed them out thoroughly and then soaked them in live nitrifiers before adding them to the media box. Hoping that some of the good bacteria would have a place to stick. Then about a week later ich.
Sounds like it could be the mechanical filter compartment, though I don't know what a "fish scrubbie pad" exactly is. A nylon mesh pot scrubber? That's what is commonly used for biomedia. I've just installed 7,000 of them in my shower tower filter for the koi exhibit.
I think the temp drop was a few days before the blue botias were added. I just assumed if some contracted the parasite all would.
No. As I tried to explain earlier, a healthy and stress-free fish would not catch ich (they already have their own and their healthy immune system has it under control) unless I reckon it is a highly intense outbreak.
I was worried for the cl's in general because it seems everyone is growing rapidly except them. I am currently hoping that the remaining cl's will last the next 2 weeks of quarantine and I can put them in another tank to grow out.
Clown loaches grow exceedingly slowly, which is why the price grows super exponentially with their size. It seems to take 5-10 years for an average captive one to get up to 6"-8". I may be wrong. But it's really slow.
I'm tempted to even just contaminate another tank with them and start immediate treatment in hopes to save them from the deadly hunter who is currently stalking them as we speak. Sigh.
Per the foregoing, you will not contaminate anything as ich lives on all fish, kinda like the staphylococcus bacterial cultures in your own and everybody else's throat (which break out into a common cold when your immune system is compromised), unless the fish in your other tank are stressed and the introduction of a tiny touch of fresh ich is the last straw.
They lived together for months previously. Now they have been moved into the 180 it seems as if all the fishes personality have changed. In heinsight I wish I would have just left the cl's in the old tank.
Not too surprising. Every tank and every stock differs, often in significant ways and not rarely unpredictably.
I haven't checked my ammonia and nitrite levels in a while. I can do that tonight though. I have a load of maintenance to do tonight. Lol.
FWIW, I check ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and pH with an API Master Kit (liquid tests) and temperature always as the very first thing at the sign of any potentially health-related trouble.
HTH.
Great. Thank you. This is all very helpful....I have probably invested around 20 hrs into this sump alone.
Do you have a better use for your time?
A question I do have in regards to this set up if anyone has used this or is currently. One of the media compartments is made up of plastic fish scrubbie pads, is this a good enough replacement for bio balls? I assume that is what they are there for. It came with a handful of the scrubbies and I felt I could do better so I bought another 60 and rinsed them out thoroughly and then soaked them in live nitrifiers before adding them to the media box. Hoping that some of the good bacteria would have a place to stick. Then about a week later ich.
Sounds like it could be the mechanical filter compartment, though I don't know what a "fish scrubbie pad" exactly is. A nylon mesh pot scrubber? That's what is commonly used for biomedia. I've just installed 7,000 of them in my shower tower filter for the koi exhibit.
I think the temp drop was a few days before the blue botias were added. I just assumed if some contracted the parasite all would.
No. As I tried to explain earlier, a healthy and stress-free fish would not catch ich (they already have their own and their healthy immune system has it under control) unless I reckon it is a highly intense outbreak.
I was worried for the cl's in general because it seems everyone is growing rapidly except them. I am currently hoping that the remaining cl's will last the next 2 weeks of quarantine and I can put them in another tank to grow out.
Clown loaches grow exceedingly slowly, which is why the price grows super exponentially with their size. It seems to take 5-10 years for an average captive one to get up to 6"-8". I may be wrong. But it's really slow.
I'm tempted to even just contaminate another tank with them and start immediate treatment in hopes to save them from the deadly hunter who is currently stalking them as we speak. Sigh.
Per the foregoing, you will not contaminate anything as ich lives on all fish, kinda like the staphylococcus bacterial cultures in your own and everybody else's throat (which break out into a common cold when your immune system is compromised), unless the fish in your other tank are stressed and the introduction of a tiny touch of fresh ich is the last straw.
They lived together for months previously. Now they have been moved into the 180 it seems as if all the fishes personality have changed. In heinsight I wish I would have just left the cl's in the old tank.
Not too surprising. Every tank and every stock differs, often in significant ways and not rarely unpredictably.
I haven't checked my ammonia and nitrite levels in a while. I can do that tonight though. I have a load of maintenance to do tonight. Lol.
FWIW, I check ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and pH with an API Master Kit (liquid tests) and temperature always as the very first thing at the sign of any potentially health-related trouble.
HTH.
Lol it was a typo supposed to be dish scrubbie not fish. And yes the nylon pot scrubber.
Is there a way that I could see your set ups? Do you have it displayed online or something? Would love to see it
I am glad you find it worthwhile.
First two links in my signature.
YouTube channel is called Fish Story Aquarium and Rescue.
First two links in my signature.
YouTube channel is called Fish Story Aquarium and Rescue.
Wow. I go back to my original statement. Your my hero (in the fish hobby). I watched the whole walk through of the 12 tanks and the brief check in of the koi ponds. I look forward to seeing the one that you were building at the end, with water in it. Super exciting!!! So many amazing fish and tanks. You did a great job of the filming btw. I loved how you talked through the entire thing, I always get so bored watching YouTube videos that all you can hear is the filters running in the background. Or even worse if they have a song blasting instead of a commentary of what I'm looking at. Just my opinion of course.
An update on my tank, looks like today all signs of ich are finally dissipated. So now I will keep my heat cranked for the next 2 weeks to hopefully make sure it's done. The acharas are seeming to settle in and are eating well. I think within the next week or so I will move all the loaches to a grow out tank just to be on the safe side. The little punk (oscars dorsal fin looks like a Mohawk) keeps stalking them casually. They are quick enough and now have a healthy respect of the danger he poses so they don't let him near each other. I will try to make a new thread soon introducing my tank ...
Does anyone know if these guys have teeth up front? Since the cats have been added to my tank, I have noticed some fin predation. The smaller achara seems to have a chunk missing from its side that looks like it could be the size of the other's mouth. And now I am finding that my Oscar has half of his lower lip ripped off . I threw some salt in the tank, but I am wondering if this is typical with these guys? Every thing I read says they are pretty docile but I wonder if a beast emerges in the darkness of night ?
