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Modest_Man;1157999; said:
They're not going to show signs of xanthism until the F2 generation, since all of the F1 fish will be heterozygous for xanthism.
(And yes, I'm using F1 and F2 in it's proper form. Not the bastardized form fishkeepers use :D) The xanthic jag and normal female are the P generation, fry are the F1 generation. Fry X fry will be the F2.
Females will mature around the 6" mark.
So F1 is the first generation of fry. Who do you breed the F1's with to get the F2 fry with the Xanthic gene? Do you breed a male fry with the gene with the normal female again. Sorry, but I want to understand the operation... can you explain it a little more?

Always loved that fish! :headbang2 :D And...I'm sure you'll take good care of it.

Bolty: what did you replace him with? Must've been tough to let that fish go
 
Headrush;1160324; said:
So F1 is the first generation of fry. Who do you breed the F1's with to get the F2 fry with the Xanthic gene? Do you breed a male fry with the gene with the normal female again. Sorry, but I want to understand the operation... can you explain it a little more?

Always loved that fish! :headbang2 :D And...I'm sure you'll take good care of it.

Bolty: what did you replace him with? Must've been tough to let that fish go
shane replaced them with my dads old cubans i think that i gotta breed his baby female with him and do that again a couple times to get it right.
 
well I don't know if xanthic is only a trait for male, which I don't think it is, but to get a high percent (about 50%) in getting F2 fry to be xanthic; you will have to breed a female F1 with the xanthic jag. Or you could breed two F1 but not as of a likely chance of geting xanthic F2 (about 25%). It is just like breeding EBJD to get EBJD fry. Please correct me if I'm wrong
 
Terrorizing Cichlid;1160346; said:
well I don't know if xanthic is only a trait for male, which I don't think it is, but to get a high percent (about 50%) in getting F2 fry to be xanthic; you will have to breed a female F1 with the xanthic jag. Or you could breed two F1 but not as of a likely chance of geting xanthic F2 (about 25%). It is just like breeding EBJD to get EBJD fry. Please correct me if I'm wrong
no i think your right. thats what im gunna try to do,
 
Terrorizing Cichlid;1160346; said:
well I don't know if xanthic is only a trait for male, which I don't think it is, but to get a high percent (about 50%) in getting F2 fry to be xanthic; you will have to breed a female F1 with the xanthic jag. Or you could breed two F1 but not as of a likely chance of geting xanthic F2 (about 25%). It is just like breeding EBJD to get EBJD fry. Please correct me if I'm wrong

That's correct. The Xanthic male (aa) crossed with a heterozygous female(one of his offspring) (Aa) would yeild 50% xanthic (aa) and 50% heterozygous (Aa).

If you bred the first filial generation (F1) who are all heterozygous (Aa) in the F2 generation you'd get 25% (aa) xanthic, 25% (AA), and 50% (Aa).

Since it's a recessive trait the homozygous dominant (AA) and the heterozygous (Aa) would both express the wild type phenotype.

Oh, and technically speaking, if you cross the xanthic male with his F1 offspring, they wouldn't be F2. That would be a new P generation. You only continue the "F's" when you continue to breed offspring with offspring.
 
andyourblueblood;1160625; said:
do you need my address??


duh!


you know,


so you can ship him to me for FREEEEE!


hahahahahahah. i f***ing love your jag!


bolty...yous caaaaarraaaaaazzzyyyyyy!


what did you end up paying?
100 for the pair.
 
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