New Festae Pics/Male or Female???

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Male or female?

  • Male

    Votes: 20 58.8%
  • Female

    Votes: 14 41.2%

  • Total voters
    34
  • Poll closed .

balton777

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I'm often told this Festae is a male when I post pics. I often think it looks male too. This fish does not expose a tube even though it's always shimmying and shaking at my male Dovii and it's never laid eggs. Even a friend of mine that comes over always says it's a g** male...and he isn't just kidding around.

It's about 6-7". It has a super iridescent green face that my camera can't capture and bluish spangly pearls over it's body and fins like a male too. The bars aren't dark like a female's and the dorsal fin isn't dark black like a female either. The fins are also long instead of rounded off....but a little chewed up right now due to my Lenticulata. What do ya'll think this fish is? Personally I still think female.

:confused::confused::confused::confused:

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Definately looks male but the way it was acting around your male dovii, one would definately think it's female. I wouldn't think a male festae would do that to a much larger male dovii, nor get away with it??
 
:wall: Better add a "I really can't tell" choice to your poll. With these pics I still can't be sure. I can tell you though that is a very well fed fish:D
 
BC in SK;2532218; said:
Definately looks male but the way it was acting around your male dovii, one would definately think it's female. I wouldn't think a male festae would do that to a much larger male dovii, nor get away with it??

+1. thanks BC in SK


Bderick67;2532226; said:
:wall: Better add a "I really can't tell" choice to your poll. With these pics I still can't be sure. I can tell you though that is a very well fed fish:D

I was afraid if I added a "Don't Know" choice, that's all I would have gotten. Out of everything you know about this fish, just make an educated guess. ;)

As far as being well fed, Massivore pellets are her fave and really have beefed her up.
 
that blue on the front fin suggest male? cuz my biggest one has that and do males grow bigger then females at first or later on
 
Now that I think about it, this poll won't accomplish anything except give me more mixed opinions. :ROFL:

I guess I was hoping for 100% female responses.
 
i sold on male, a very greatly colored male, but a male.

Mainly the face and to an extent the fins.

I'm also partial to say male because of the mass and body shape of the fish, not many females (if any) look similar to your fish.

gorgeus ethier way.
 
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balton777;2532284; said:
I guess I was hoping for 100% female responses.

No chance of that, matey. This is most definately male.

The displaying toward your Dovii is simply a dominance display (so to speak).

Truely an eyecatching specimen. Keep him healthy.
 
They way the pic looks like I am leaning more to female. The first third of its dorsal fin has blue on it. Females have blue or black on their dorsal fins. Plus some females can have the spangling also. Hopefully this will help.

Sexing Cichlasoma festae
Ok this is just a short little article to help anybody out that's having trouble sexing there Festaes, and also because i love writing articles about this awesome fish. Firstly i wanted to add that this particular species of Cichlid isn't like most other cichlids in the way that the Female is normally a lot more colourfull than the male. But the main differences between male and female Festae is the black/blue markings on there dorsal and pelvic fins, there is also the matter of the blue spangling dots on the males fins and tail end of his body. Though there is some confusion in using this particular trait in sexing males as in some festae populations females may also obtain the blue spangling though it is normally to a much lesser degree. Anyway here are some pictures, unfortunately there aren't to many photos of male Festaes on the net as like i mentioned before the females are much more colourfull and hence create much nicer pictures. This isn't however to say male Festaes are ugly or dull, it's just the Red colour isn't as intense as in the Female.

Here are some males.
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Photo from Tangled Up in Cichlids, by Jeff RappsAs you can see by this photo especially this male Festae is definitely not dull or lacking in colour, however you will notice the gold colour instead of the Red, males generally obtain a yellow, green or gray colour.Can you see he has no black dorsal or pelvic fins and the spots extend well up his body, this is a real stunner of a male, if you interested in buying quality Cichlids like the beautiful male please have a look at Jeff Rapps Tangled Up in Cichlids page.
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Photo from Real Cichlids Eat QuicheThis is an average looking male, but you can notice the lack of a black dorsal and pelvic fins, you can also see his tube, see how it's thin, a females is a lot fatter, generally a male will have his tube out a lot of the time.
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Photo from Big Fish, by Tim Bardsley - SmithThis is my magnificent male, isn't he cool. To show you how much he coloured up in the 6" to 9" period have a look at the male above, that's what this one looked like at 6". see the blue dots??. and no black dorsal.
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Photo from Big Fish, by Tim Bardsley - SmithHere is my male Festae again unfortunately it's a little dark but you can see the blue dots, easy and you get to see my male Dovii. The Dovii normally looks a lot nicer, his fins are usually bright blue/green.

Here are Some females
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Photo from Real Cichlids Eat QuicheHere is a nice female, notice the dark dorsal and the lack of blue spots.
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Photo from Real Cichlids Eat QuicheThis female is showing her black bars, females normally do this a lot more than the males do, and keep the bars through there courting, breeding and raising periods. They sometimes will show there bars when not doing these as well. Males generally only show there bars when courting or attacking something.
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Photo UnknownThis is a rather small photo but it shows how different each festae can look, see the blue dorsal instead of black.This is due to different populations of Festaes, and hence there are differences
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Photo from Real Cichlids Eat QuicheThis photo is rather dark but you can see her dark dorsal and blue pelvic fins.
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Photo from Real Cichlids Eat QuicheThis is a big female again see how some festaes can have a very Blue look, my Female had a blue colouration when she was stressed.
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Photo UnknownThis is a very bright orange female. you can clearly see the black dorsal and black pelvic fins. and again no blue spots.
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Photo UnknownHere is another Festae with blue markings instead of black, this one also has a lot of red though.
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Photo UnknownHere is a rather ordinary female, but you can see the black dorsal and the lack of Blue spots.
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Photo from JAWSThis photo originally confused me greatly, as up until the other day i would have said it was a male, because of the blue spots, but then it also had the black dorsal. So i asked a very knowledgeable Jeff Rapps about it, and he told me some in populations of festae, the female can also obtain the blue spangling, but never will a male get a Black dorsal. therefore this has to be a female, this is also enforced by the bright orange colour which would be unusual for a male Festae.
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Photo from Tangled Up in Cichlids, by Jeff RappsHere is another one of Jeff's Festaes, see how this female also has some blue spangling.

Well i hoped you like this short little article which turned out to be more of a festae gallery but at least now you will know what too look for when sexing you Festae. If you ever have any questions about this article or on sexing your festae please email me at bigguapote@hotmail.com
By Tim Bardsley - Smith I would like to thank my mate Simon for scanning the pictures of my male Festae.

I hope this helps out. Found this thought i would share with all.
 
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