New filteration ideas for 600 gallon

[SandNukka15]

You bet. The Laguna 4280 is better for the 2000 model. I keep my 2000’s around 3-3.5k each but with pressure rates pumps like Reeflo. I’ve run a 1000 model with a Laguna 2400 and thought it was good. Just requires backwash more often due to the smaller size of the filter. If you do go Laguna use soft line to limit restriction

Most people who seem to have issues with mechanical are wildly overdoing the flow. A hammerhead on a 1000 is insane flow for something maxes out at 2,400 GPH. Set up correctly they are great for both mech and bio.

I do prefer to have K1 offset some bio. Mainly because I have tons around and it’s good insurance. I’ve ran Ultima only and been happy with both mech and bio.

Wouldnt the laguna 4280 be too much flo for the ultima 2000?.... don't they recommend 2,000 gph for the ultima 2000 ?

I dont have much head loss at all on my lagunamax flo 2400s...... I'm prob getting 1800 gph roughly on each so idk how much your laguna 4280 is actually pumping thru with head loss?

 

[JK47]

Wouldnt the laguna 4280 be too much flo for the ultima 2000?.... don't they recommend 2,000 gph for the ultima 2000 ?

I dont have much head loss at all on my lagunamax flo 2400s...... I'm prob getting 1800 gph roughly on each so idk how much your laguna 4280 is actually pumping thru with head loss?

Min: 500 GPH
Optimal: 2,500 GPH at 10' head (the 2000 is the gallons it filters according to the manufacturer)

It's OK to overdo the recommended flow on the larger models if it isn't excessive. A hammerhead would be too much for the 2000. A dart is the sweet spot and easier to valve back than to add flow IMO. Try it. You can always try it and if the 2400 isn't enough, upgrade later.

I run Reeflo Darts on the 2000's so I've not run a large Ultima with a Laguna pump. My comments came from running the Laguna 2400 on a 1000 model which I liked a lot. I've ran the 1000 model on the Laguna 4280 as well and it was far too much. My assumption is it would be better for suited for the Ultima 2000.

 

[SandNukka15]

Min: 500 GPH
Optimal: 2,500 GPH at 10' head (the 2000 is the gallons it filters according to the manufacturer)

It's OK to overdo the recommended flow on the larger models if it isn't excessive. A hammerhead would be too much for the 2000. A dart is the sweet spot and easier to valve back than to add flow IMO. Try it. You can always try it and if the 2400 isn't enough, upgrade later.

I run Reeflo Darts on the 2000's so I've not run a large Ultima with a Laguna pump. My comments came from running the Laguna 2400 on a 1000 model which I liked a lot. I've ran the 1000 model on the Laguna 4280 as well and it was far too much. My assumption is it would be better for suited for the Ultima 2000.

Gotcha I already have the 2 laguna max flow 2400s so was gonna go off that.... didn't want to invest in new pumps since these are only 2 years old.

What's the difference between an Ultima filter and a pool sand filter?
I found an old Hayward pro sand filter in the basement from an old pool.

Could I just attach one of the 2400s to the Hayward pool sand filter and add pot scrubbies?

 

[SandNukka15]

This is the pool sand filter I found in the basement ....obviously I wouldn't use the pump that cane with it but instead attach a laguna max flo

 

[JK47]

Gotcha I already have the 2 laguna max flow 2400s so was gonna go off that.... didn't want to invest in new pumps since these are only 2 years old.

What's the difference between an Ultima filter and a pool sand filter?
I found an old Hayward pro sand filter in the basement from an old pool.

Could I just attach one of the 2400s to the Hayward pool sand filter and add pot scrubbies?

Its all about the head unit and flow direction. Some of those filters have to be reversed internally for proper flow in aquaria. Sand should not be used and is purely bio if used. Scrubbies and other static media would be a PAIN to clean unless I am missing something in the design. I suppose it could be possible but not likely to be effective

 

[JK47]

I take that back. It does look like Hayward have similar internals according to the manuals I looked at. You would have to modify it and replace the media with something similar to the ultima sinking K1 but looks plausible at a minimum

 

[SandNukka15]

I take that back. It does look like Hayward have similar internals according to the manuals I looked at. You would have to modify it and replace the media with something similar to the ultima sinking K1 but looks plausible at a minimum

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I had my doubts whenbi first saw it in the basement but one I took it apart the mechanics looked like it would work with some tweeking

What media what you suggest?

 

[SandNukka15]

When cleaning it Do you think the backwash pressure would have enough flow to clean out pot scrubbies?

 

[JK47]

I had my doubts whenbi first saw it in the basement but one I took it apart the mechanics looked like it would work with some tweeking

What media what you suggest?

I don't know the answer to that, I haven't built one. I would assume something along these lines would work just fine.

https://www.ebay.com/i/232696685803?chn=ps&dispItem=1

You could always just modify a cheap or used filter to take Ultima media and order replacement media directly from the manufacturer. I'm doing that with an acrylic sieve at the moment actually.

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When cleaning it Do you think the backwash pressure would have enough flow to clean out pot scrubbies?

Not at all. It would clean the outer surfaces but over time it would likely clog and potentially crash the system from buildup. Keep in mind they are running at 4.0-4.7 PSI depending on the pump. That isn't enough. I don't think a blower would be enough either

 

[SandNukka15]

I don't know the answer to that, I haven't built one. I would assume something along these lines would work just fine.

https://www.ebay.com/i/232696685803?chn=ps&dispItem=1

You could always just modify a cheap or used filter to take Ultima media and order replacement media directly from the manufacturer. I'm doing that with an acrylic sieve at the moment actually.

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Not at all. It would clean the outer surfaces but over time it would likely clog and potentially crash the system from buildup. Keep in mind they are running at 4.0-4.7 PSI depending on the pump. That isn't enough. I don't think a blower would be enough either

You have been a lot of help thank you for taking the time to explain things.... I appreciate the effort.