New* Gar Guest what it is.
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the snout does highly suggest Cuban in the OP and also in the example pics following, but i thought out of the lateral shots was a good sign of a Cuban as well...stress coloration was pretty indicative too, but that's mainly noticeable to people who have seen stressed Cubans before.
also note that the dorsal views show a pronounced difference in the Cuban gar snout shape, although this becomes less and less evident in larger specimens.
and Ricky, IMO the t-gar trident shows up in most juveniles to some extent, and generally fades away with age...of course we both know t-gars are highly variable in pattern, so some will retain the trident longer. other gar skulls show a bone pattern of the trident, but other species don't have it as clearly outlined as the tropicals.--
--solomon
also note that the dorsal views show a pronounced difference in the Cuban gar snout shape, although this becomes less and less evident in larger specimens.
and Ricky, IMO the t-gar trident shows up in most juveniles to some extent, and generally fades away with age...of course we both know t-gars are highly variable in pattern, so some will retain the trident longer. other gar skulls show a bone pattern of the trident, but other species don't have it as clearly outlined as the tropicals.--
--solomon
Ok guys this is a cuban gar. Order 100 but only 60 arrived safe. They all went to UBC for study and will likely gonna get killed so that's bad news. However I hold one for myself. I'm supposed to hide more but the demand for every students in the classroom needs all even the dead ones. I just lied to them that they miss counted 100 to 99 so I can keep one for myself.
For those who wanted Cuban gars. Oliver from belowwater will have them around November so best to ask for reserve right away as they will be gone sooner or later.
For those who wanted Cuban gars. Oliver from belowwater will have them around November so best to ask for reserve right away as they will be gone sooner or later.
xander;4302939; said:
The plan was to get 1000 of them but it was rejected and only proven 100 as they are in the red list protected species.
They could have use florida or gator gar instead and not sure why they use cuban gars.
Madding;4303124; said:Someone probably realized the financial possibilities of raising 100 cuban gars and is currently trying to figure out how to slowly take them out of the project alive.
the problem is that demand really isn't that high for them...or more specifically, there aren't a lot of people demanding them. with 100 Cubans you would almost surely saturate the market. look at tropical gars...when we first brought them in they were $350 each for 6-8" specimens, now you have them going for cheaper at larger sizes.
the Cubans would go similarly...we had an order brought in several years ago and it was a small one so they went fast (at about $275 each for small guys, it may have been even a higher price, i don't recall exactly)...but then most people who bought them killed them because they didn't realize they are tougher to keep than the more common species.
king-el, congrats on getting a Cuban for your collection, although it's too bad how you had to go about doing it. if i were the person in charge of the research i'd be pissed if one specimen were missing as research like this (with so little being done on gars) depends greatly on having ALL the fish present and used to the fullest ability. this is part of the reason hobbyists get a bad reputation in fish research...they often believe their interests in "collections" supercedes the importance of quality research.--
--solomon
E_americanus;4303308; said:
This is true... I often forget that not everyone is hunting high and low for cuban gars like myself and a few other gar keepers in the states & beyond. Indeed, most people, even notable fish vendors and US fish & game import officers, tell me they have never heard of such a fish. Often they are skeptical it even exists and assume I am trying to do some shady business.
Note to people.... cuban gars =/= cuban cigars...
