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we do all luv fish thats why Iv stayed in this thread to give you advice. If you notice the experts(solomon and richard) and most of our other very experience keepers have ignored this thread. Heck Ryan posted and then chose to ignore you after you chose to totally ignore any advice given. I should have taken his lead but I insist to try and give good advice and correct the bad care given.
Its people like me that are keeping MFK around. I chose to stick around and give advice but certain people try my last nerve. Iv been around quite awhile, over 3 years. Youv been around a year. I know how things have been. You have no clue.
"grow out tank" is MEANINGLESS. You do realize that right?? Grow out only refers to them being in a too small tank for the max size of the fish. Has NOTHING to do with aggression. The aggression and slime sucking has nothing to do with a grow out tank, that fact is quite meaningless to be honost. Aggression and slime sucking could occur in a 1000g tank or a 20g tank. And YES you did twist words. Multiple people suggested feeding live. You twisted it by saying we where saying its the only way to raise fish. That was NEVER said. Hince you twisting words around. We suggested in because young gar need food constantly, plus gar can be difficult to convert to non live.
Insults are against the TOS btw. Reported
Its people like me that are keeping MFK around. I chose to stick around and give advice but certain people try my last nerve. Iv been around quite awhile, over 3 years. Youv been around a year. I know how things have been. You have no clue.
"grow out tank" is MEANINGLESS. You do realize that right?? Grow out only refers to them being in a too small tank for the max size of the fish. Has NOTHING to do with aggression. The aggression and slime sucking has nothing to do with a grow out tank, that fact is quite meaningless to be honost. Aggression and slime sucking could occur in a 1000g tank or a 20g tank. And YES you did twist words. Multiple people suggested feeding live. You twisted it by saying we where saying its the only way to raise fish. That was NEVER said. Hince you twisting words around. We suggested in because young gar need food constantly, plus gar can be difficult to convert to non live.
Insults are against the TOS btw. Reported
So becasue you been around for 3 years you are the Gar Master? And for anyone who has just joined the forum dont have a clue about fishkeeping?
Haha, oh dear.
Are you seriously not re-reading this? Not for one second did I insult anyone who gave me advice, the advice given by the others were taken in with gratitude.
Wait, wasn't it you and some other guy who said they NEEDED it ? haha I did not start saying that randomly. again. Re-read
Oh and we go on about years we have been registered? haha people like you who flame people are the ones keeping MFK alive... hmm that might actually be true, we are getting over 4 pages now! well done buddy!
Again, I said I did not just throw them in, I monitored the activity in the tank and I still do, and as far as I am concerned there is NO aggression AT ALL. Did I say grow-out tank will reduce aggression? No. Again who is the one making things up
I said that it is a grow out and if they grow much faster than others I will take them out to a bigger tank. Seriously are you not reading and just flaming?
Are you seriously not re-reading this? Not for one second did I insult anyone who gave me advice, the advice given by the others were taken in with gratitude.
Wait, wasn't it you and some other guy who said they NEEDED it ? haha I did not start saying that randomly. again. Re-read
Oh and we go on about years we have been registered? haha people like you who flame people are the ones keeping MFK alive... hmm that might actually be true, we are getting over 4 pages now! well done buddy!
Again, I said I did not just throw them in, I monitored the activity in the tank and I still do, and as far as I am concerned there is NO aggression AT ALL. Did I say grow-out tank will reduce aggression? No. Again who is the one making things up
I said that it is a grow out and if they grow much faster than others I will take them out to a bigger tank. Seriously are you not reading and just flaming?
I never said you insulted anyone. You DID ignore advice given by people experienced in keeping gar. Do you sit by the tank 24/7?? No?? Than it is very possible you will miss the gar biting the heujta and the slime coat being sucked off the gar. But thats OK. Its your fish. I wipe my hands of this thread. You where given good advice by those who actually know what we are talking about and choose to ignore it. I hope your the exception to the rule. I hope your gar grow huge and live long lives but the advice given is based in EXPERIENCE. Thats ok, we all have to make mistakes in life.
never said that did I? I said i know how things have been in reGARd to MFK and the quality of advice given.
"I insist to try and give good advice and correct the bad care given"
Haha bad care, only because I do not feed live food Before we move on, can you actually give me some good advice please? Is feeders better than the variety of pellets I am giving and MP?
24/7? Now you are just being childish. So your telling me whenever ANYONE starts a tank and introduces new fish they have to monitor the tank 24/7. Oh but they can't so everyone who buys new fish is inadequate and should SELL THE FISH ASAP.
You could say I have FF and characin but what about more aggressive fish? Aro comms? Pbass comms? Gar comms? Oh jesus... I can already name A LOT of inadequate keepers... they should sell their fish as I'm sure when they started their comms they didnt monitor is 24/7!!!
You are just stubborn. NEED live food or owner is inadequate. Have you even checked my location? Do we have bags and loads of feeders available? As far as i'm concerned it is illegal to feed feeders or introduce other animals to fight/eat. So majority of UK fishkeepers are inadequate and should immediately sell their fish.
I'll be waiting for the info that explains how feeders are better for growth and health for predatory fish compared to pellets.
Haha bad care, only because I do not feed live food
Before we move on, can you actually give me some good advice please? Is feeders better than the variety of pellets I am giving and MP? 24/7? Now you are just being childish. So your telling me whenever ANYONE starts a tank and introduces new fish they have to monitor the tank 24/7. Oh but they can't so everyone who buys new fish is inadequate and should SELL THE FISH ASAP.
You could say I have FF and characin but what about more aggressive fish? Aro comms? Pbass comms? Gar comms? Oh jesus... I can already name A LOT of inadequate keepers... they should sell their fish as I'm sure when they started their comms they didnt monitor is 24/7!!!
You are just stubborn. NEED live food or owner is inadequate. Have you even checked my location? Do we have bags and loads of feeders available? As far as i'm concerned it is illegal to feed feeders or introduce other animals to fight/eat. So majority of UK fishkeepers are inadequate and should immediately sell their fish.
I'll be waiting for the info that explains how feeders are better for growth and health for predatory fish compared to pellets.
so, did the gar eat pellet? if not then you are more likely killing it than training it to eat pellet! the point is small gar usually only eat live food and starving them to make them eat pellet can easily kill them!
Yeah the gars are eating pellets! I tried pellets first just to test before moving to MP and cricket/worms.
I think its the other fish in the tank that made it easier for them to eat pellets!
Went to the LFS that sold the gars, they still have two left and both of them was taking flakes in the LFS
I tried pellets first just to test before moving to MP and cricket/worms.I think its the other fish in the tank that made it easier for them to eat pellets!
Went to the LFS that sold the gars, they still have two left and both of them was taking flakes in the LFS
Sigh... I never said they are better. Please reread. Already explained why I suggested feeders. Ill explain once more. Young gar should have food 24/7. Live isnt needed. But for young gar food should almost always be available. When it is bigger converting to frozen prawn, fish fillets, pellets etc is suggested. In fact I just fed my gar tilapia fillets packed with pellets. I almost never feed feeders, excluding getting a new gar.
And as for watching 24/7 you said ur watching for aggression. I simply asked if you saw it every minute. Slime sucking(the large issue here) is highly fatal very quick. The aggression as far as biting might not be an issue with similar sized fish but slime sucking is. This is your largest comcern atm. This act can accure quickly and unless your watching 24/7 you will likly not catch it in time. The issue at hand has nothing to do with standard aggresion which MIGHT give warnings(though by the time you see it, it may be too late). We also suggest against aro with gar, cichlids, pbass, usually rays plecos and some others. The best tankmates for gar are gar. Bichir is also good but the BEST are other gar.
You are taking everything I say out of context....
And as for watching 24/7 you said ur watching for aggression. I simply asked if you saw it every minute. Slime sucking(the large issue here) is highly fatal very quick. The aggression as far as biting might not be an issue with similar sized fish but slime sucking is. This is your largest comcern atm. This act can accure quickly and unless your watching 24/7 you will likly not catch it in time. The issue at hand has nothing to do with standard aggresion which MIGHT give warnings(though by the time you see it, it may be too late). We also suggest against aro with gar, cichlids, pbass, usually rays plecos and some others. The best tankmates for gar are gar. Bichir is also good but the BEST are other gar.
You are taking everything I say out of context....
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