Jc1119;4762091; said:
Thanks again. I will try the medicated food if they will eat. I usually quit feeding them if I suspect water problems to prevent further polluting of the water. Never used medicated foods. Any suggestions?
New sump now fish are sick!
- Thread starter Grover
- Start date
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
Thanks again. I will try the medicated food if they will eat. I usually quit feeding them if I suspect water problems to prevent further polluting of the water. Never used medicated foods. Any suggestions?
Grover;4762072; said:Thanks guys. Glad to hear you think large water changes are ok. I keep a barrel in my utility room with aged water so the chlorine is gone and temperature is always room temp. This way I can change any percentage easily. I have a pump in it which I use to refill my tank after vacuuming with a Python. The silicone I used was the Window and Door type so it should be ok. 100% silicone and no antifungal stuff. Ever seen problems using new cpvc fittings? No glue used. They are just for structural purposes.
CPVC is the black pipe, right? I used PVC (white, or is this the cpvc?? whatever lol) for the return line from my sump... I used that concrete glue for it and didn't have an issue. I put it all together and had water in the line an hour after. My fish (Fahaka) was in the tank the same night. ( I had cycled media in the sump and an AC110 running for those people that are gonna flame me about an uncycled tank ).
I just slightly modified the design of my sump and used PVC pipe and fitting to create better shelves in the bio-chamber. I did not use any glue and I had zero problems and that pipe is completely submerged in water. I did rinse it with warm water first and wiped it with a towel....but I didn't clean it per say or anything of the like.
If you used the correct silicone, and let it rest for 3 days plus, it isn't that.
You said you ran water through the sump for a day....so it's highly unlikely that the glass or some other part in it has contaminants in it.
That leaves nothing in the sump that could have caused the problem unless it was some part of the media you put in.
What about the drip tray or anything else you added to the sump?
Otherwise, it wasn't the sump and is altogether a different issue.
If you used the correct silicone, and let it rest for 3 days plus, it isn't that.
You said you ran water through the sump for a day....so it's highly unlikely that the glass or some other part in it has contaminants in it.
That leaves nothing in the sump that could have caused the problem unless it was some part of the media you put in.
What about the drip tray or anything else you added to the sump?
Otherwise, it wasn't the sump and is altogether a different issue.
watercrawl;4762141; said:I just slightly modified the design of my sump and used PVC pipe and fitting to create better shelves in the bio-chamber. I did not use any glue and I had zero problems and that pipe is completely submerged in water. I did rinse it with warm water first and wiped it with a towel....but I didn't clean it per say or anything of the like.
If you used the correct silicone, and let it rest for 3 days plus, it isn't that.
You said you ran water through the sump for a day....so it's highly unlikely that the glass or some other part in it has contaminants in it.
That leaves nothing in the sump that could have caused the problem unless it was some part of the media you put in.
What about the drip tray or anything else you added to the sump?
Otherwise, it wasn't the sump and is altogether a different issue.
I rinsed the fittings with hot water so they were fairly clean. I put my cycled media from the old sump into the new sump. Thinking about it now the media sat for about 2 hours before the new sump was up and running. (It took me awhile to change the plumbing a bit and get the new sump positioned and set up. I kept the media in tank water for that time though. Would that be enough time to kill the good bacteria and could that pollute the tank?
geronimo69;4762114; said:CPVC is the black pipe, right? I used PVC (white, or is this the cpvc?? whatever lol)
Black was probably ABS pipe, although I have seen some true black PVC although it's quite rare at least in local stores.
CPVC looks like light tan PVC pipe and is Chlorinated Polyvinyl Chloride pipe. They chlorinate the PVC essentially. Due to it's ability to withstand greater temperatures, it's becoming more popular to use as water piping in lieu of copper piping.
watercrawl;4762162; said:Black was probably ABS pipe, although I have seen some true black PVC although it's quite rare at least in local stores.
CPVC looks like light tan PVC pipe and is Chlorinated Polyvinyl Chloride pipe. They chlorinate the PVC essentially. Due to it's ability to withstand greater temperatures, it's becoming more popular to use as water piping in lieu of copper piping.
My fittings are white.
Grover;4762160; said:I rinsed the fittings with hot water so they were fairly clean. I put my cycled media from the old sump into the new sump. Thinking about it now the media sat for about 2 hours before the new sump was up and running. (It took me awhile to change the plumbing a bit and get the new sump positioned and set up. I kept the media in tank water for that time though. Would that be enough time to kill the good bacteria and could that pollute the tank?
Not if it was in tank water unless it was really hot or really cold. Room temperature shouldn't have affected the media so long as it was in tank water.
Again, I don't think it's the sump. Killing all of the BB on the media wouldn't cause this I don't think. Your tank (sand, decorations, etc.) all have BB on them as well and you stated you have a canister running as well. I highly doubt it was the loss of any BB from the media.
Grover;4762168; said:My fittings are white.
Then it was most likely regular PVC....CPVC is off-white / tannish color.
After all this discussion I think I will just continue to do water changes and maybe feed some medicated food. Hopefully the fish are just stressed with the new taste/feel of the water running through the new sump. The fish are Cubans, Synspilum and a Salvini. This is the first time they have been through any large change in this tank. Maybe these fish are just being overly sensitive? Lol. Males and Females in the tank people!! I am going home for lunch and will update the condition of the fish.
Grover;4762100; said:Thanks again. I will try the medicated food if they will eat. I usually quit feeding them if I suspect water problems to prevent further polluting of the water. Never used medicated foods. Any suggestions?
Not a huge fan of most jungle labs products but their medicated food is pretty good and you can find it as most petsmarts, wal-marts. I'd be wary of buying from wal-mart though because it might have sat on the shelf for awhile.
Changing the sump out, even if done very carefully probably stressed the fish a bit, and that could have been enough for them to succumb to something. Usually these things sill clear up with good food and water.
