New To Salt,Help!!?

[Chaz88]

(Although I personally would place a few pieces of live rock amongst the dead rubble... eventually they'd seed everything else, wouldn't they?)

I asked and looked for an answer to that question myself, when I started my SW. What I came up with was sort of. Some things will moove to the other rock and grow but other beneficial things grow deep in the rock and are only going to happen in harvested or farmed live rock in an ocean setting over many years.

 

[hghlndr85]

id like to keep a small trigger.an few other fish that could be tank mates with him, what other fish can i put in with a trigger? i know ill ned a bigger tank but a 75g for a 3-4 inch trigger will be fine for a little while, how bout snowflake eel?

 

[Juxtaroberto]

I asked and looked for an answer to that question myself, when I started my SW. What I came up with was sort of. Some things will moove to the other rock and grow but other beneficial things grow deep in the rock and are only going to happen in harvested or farmed live rock in an ocean setting over many years.

That does make sense... although isn't the deep stuff denitrifying bacteria? They help with nitrates, don't they? If you could find some other way to control nitrates, you could afford to wait for the deep parts of the dead live rock to become colonized.

 

[nonstophoops]

I asked and looked for an answer to that question myself, when I started my SW. What I came up with was sort of. Some things will moove to the other rock and grow but other beneficial things grow deep in the rock and are only going to happen in harvested or farmed live rock in an ocean setting over many years.

It will seed the dead rock and make it live just like anything else you put into the tank. Like you said it will take years to fully be developed. It will however be quite developed and beneficial within a couple months. It is definitely better to put the base rock in with the live rock rather than not have it at all.

 

[krichardson]

Actually, after some thought I will have to add one note of agreement. Live rock that has not been properly cured could wipe out a fish tank. If cured it is an invaluable addition.

In that case yes,which why I asked why he/she made the staement.I know of places that will sell uncured rock without bothering to explain it's difference from other choices.

 

[Chaz88]

id like to keep a small trigger.an few other fish that could be tank mates with him, what other fish can i put in with a trigger? i know ill ned a bigger tank but a 75g for a 3-4 inch trigger will be fine for a little while, how bout snowflake eel?

I personally don't know of any triggers that would stay small enough for a 75. The snowflake might be alright when grown, but would not leave much room for anything else. Remember the "rules of thumb" often applied to tank size and fish size for FW have even less relevance for SW. The more experienced SW people will probably have better answers.

That does make sense... although isn't the deep stuff denitrifying bacteria? They help with nitrates, don't they? If you could find some other way to control nitrates, you could afford to wait for the deep parts of the dead live rock to become colonized.

In my mind it would make since that it would eventually happen but the answers I got from more knowledgeable people was that it was not likely in a small tank environment.

 

[Chaz88]

It will seed the dead rock and make it live just like anything else you put into the tank. Like you said it will take years to fully be developed. It will however be quite developed and beneficial within a couple months. It is definitely better to put the base rock in with the live rock rather than not have it at all.[/QUOE]

Thanks for the answer. That is what in my mind should happen. Just not what more experienced people told me.

 

[dookie]

I've seen countless times where people introduce live rock into their "fish" tank and all it did was wipe out their fish with disease. I don't see any benefit by adding live rock to a fish tank. Of course I'm talking about a tank that does have a real filtration system like a wet dry or whatever. Yes I understand that new reef tanks have rufugium systems with no biological filters other than a skimmer and live rock. I'm not talking about this type of tank. I'm only referring to a fish only tank.

 

[nonstophoops]

That does make sense... although isn't the deep stuff denitrifying bacteria? They help with nitrates, don't they? If you could find some other way to control nitrates, you could afford to wait for the deep parts of the dead live rock to become colonized.

Water changes.

 

[Chaz88]

I've seen countless times where people introduce live rock into their "fish" tank and all it did was wipe out their fish with disease. I don't see any benefit by adding live rock to a fish tank. Of course I'm talking about a tank that does have a real filtration system like a wet dry or whatever. Yes I understand that new reef tanks have rufugium systems with no biological filters other than a skimmer and live rock. I'm not talking about this type of tank. I'm only referring to a fish only tank.

You have given me a new point of view to think about. Thank you. I always like having different views to consider when making plans. I will have to think on this more in regard to a custom built-in tank plan I have been contemplating. The design is going to make maintenance hard and anything that simplifies it is worth thinking about.