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look at Pulcher avatar pic of his wide bar... you can tell by the markings on his tail. if you had a better picture you will also notice the rear top fin (not the tail) on a pulcher will dip in a lot more than an indo will.
 
There are many different ways of ID'ing Indos from Pulchers other than just there tail.

Almost all Indonesian Datnoides have the 3 tail markings, However, this is not a positive way of identification because Widebars can have 3 tail markings also. People have debated that the tail stripes tell which basin/river they came from but that is a different topic for another discussion.

Widebars tend to have a more curved head as opposed to indos which have a straighter head (usally they have to be 8 inches or more to ID Indo's this way).

Indonesian's bars tend to have a more "wavy" pattern rather than straight like Widebars do. Widebars middle bar tend to sweep backwards rather than a 3 barred Indo's which there middle bar is usally more up and down rather than sweeping backwards.

Also Stability is another thing. Usally 90% of the time a widebar will be stable and never turn black. Where as Indos are almost always unstable and are constantly changing color. I have never seen a widebar that was completely black unless it was very stressed or it was sick even then they werent completely black. I see all black Indo's all the time. Some of these weird Indonesian Dats i have seen in Asia have been extremely stable. Marshey has a extremely stable Indo that would put some people's widebars to shame. But were in the US so i doubt anyone is going to find one that is stable all the time.

Basically, If you have been looking at Datnoide's for a long enough time you can almost usally tell what the species it is by first glance. If someone made a stickey im sure it would be alot more helpfull to people new to dats.
 
yeah those are Datnioides microlepis aka indo tiger, these are the 3 bar ones showing up a lot lately.
just to let people know that i have it on good authority that you can get small ST's, they are available but cost a lot and are in small numbers but they are available but unfortunatley not in the UK or USA at the moment.
 
DiXoN;1354735; said:
yeah those are Datnioides microlepis aka indo tiger, these are the 3 bar ones showing up a lot lately.
just to let people know that i have it on good authority that you can get small ST's, they are available but cost a lot and are in small numbers but they are available but unfortunatley not in the UK or USA at the moment.

are these illegally smuggled pulchers? i heard there were some, but the price of course will be expensive

edit: also wanted to add that indos have a more narrow and long body and ST have more of a stumpy and short body
 
sQwiReL;1355763; said:
are these illegally smuggled pulchers? i heard there were some, but the price of course will be expensive

edit: also wanted to add that indos have a more narrow and long body and ST have more of a stumpy and short body

i have no clue where they were from just there was some for sale around 2-3''
 
Its illegal for them to be exported out of Thailand, but not illegal to own/sell them once they are out side.

LFS by me had a 5-6" Pulcher, that they had labeled as a NGT. This is because they don't know jack about Dats, and because it was first smuggled out of thailand labled as a different species.

The owner told me this fish was not imported from Thailand, so most likely was shipped out illegally from Thailand to a closer country, then shipped to the U.S. from a country that does not have laws against exporting Pulchers.
 
TheMightyOscar;1354743; said:
they are worth whatever he is willing to pay for them. ;)

also have to think about demand.

Exactly and area.. Something in cali might be more plentiful than it is in Washington or other areas. I'd pay $30.00 locally for a decent size indo.
 
a nice stable indo

you will never get a wide bar for the money you paid for a indo

them days are long gone
 
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