newbie needs goldfish help. thank you

[crucial09]

Biomax only removes ammonia once it has been colonized with the beneficial bacteria, which your media has NOT.

After only one day, and the feeding regime you listed, ammonia will easily be over 2ppm. You need to change the water.

CHANGE THE WATER CHANGE THE WATER CHANGE THE WATER.

I don't know how much simpler I can put it.

Well IMO I strongly disagree with that, right now atleast.
I will change the water once I get some well water at a friends house, instead of this tap water here.

I'll post back when I do that, or if the red dot on the fish worsens in anyway.

Until then subscribe to this thread so you will be notified instantly.
Thank you for the suggestions.

And there is no petco or petsmart where I live and the closest pet store is a 45 min drive away.
So I will see what strips walmart has. Anything above a 0 in ammonia is bad and will require a water change. So if they arent very accurate and rates above a 0 I will do a water change.
I'll also do a ph test.

 

[Laticauda]

Well IMO I strongly disagree with that, right now atleast.
I will change the water once I get some well water at a friends house, instead of this tap water here.

If you had properly prepared, you would have a test kit, and you would see that every second your fish are in their ammonia filled water, you are shortening their life-span.

Wait...isn't the title of this thread NEWBIE needs goldfish help? You obviously have no idea how aquariums work, which is why you need help. I'm telling you what's wrong, so obviously your *opinion* is wrong.

 

[komodo182]

Well IMO I strongly disagree with that, right now atleast.
I will change the water once I get some well water at a friends house, instead of this tap water here.

I'll post back when I do that, or if the red dot on the fish worsens in anyway.

Until then subscribe to this thread so you will be notified instantly.
Thank you for the suggestions.

Just wondering the logic of disagreeing?

Most fish in my mind and I think most people can agree, are a balloon filled with waste. The balloon has a tiny hole in it, so waste leaves into the water.
Eventually, (since this balloon has a constant supply of waste), there is a lot of waste in the water. How do you get rid of the waste? Change the water. Magical.

You must agree that bacteria need some type of fuel to survive. If you are trapped in a bottle for a year, where is your fuel coming from?

My other question is why come to a site and ask for help from people that have been keeping fish successfully, but ignore it?

 

[crucial09]

If you had properly prepared, you would have a test kit, and you would see that every second your fish are in their ammonia filled water, you are shortening their life-span.

Wait...isn't the title of this thread NEWBIE needs goldfish help? You obviously have no idea how aquariums work, which is why you need help. I'm telling you what's wrong, so obviously your *opinion* is wrong.

Look, move along if your gonna act like that.
I don't need your sarcastic bull.... comments.

I'll buy a test kit IF walmart has one because the nearest pet store is 45min away and I need gas money. there is no petco or petsmart here.

even if its not accurate thats the best I can do.

I'll change the water with well water since I have proof this well water is okay for tetras and bettas, and will suffice for a goldfish.
I don't think my tap water will, even treated.

post back when I do that.

 

[crucial09]

Just wondering the logic of disagreeing?

Most fish in my mind and I think most people can agree, are a balloon filled with waste. The balloon has a tiny hole in it, so waste leaves into the water.
Eventually, (since this balloon has a constant supply of waste), there is a lot of waste in the water. How do you get rid of the waste? Change the water. Magical.

You must agree that bacteria need some type of fuel to survive. If you are trapped in a bottle for a year, where is your fuel coming from?

My other question is why come to a site and ask for help from people that have been keeping fish successfully, but ignore it?

You can buy seamonkey eggs, which a a powder.
put them in water and they will grow into seamonkeys.
I have done this.

You can buy dried plant seeds sealed in a vaccuum bag for 25 cents each, and plant that, add water and they grow.
I have done this with carrots, broccoli, and lettuce.
They were outdated in fact and still grew

I'm sure they can do the same with cycle starter.

 

[komodo182]

You can buy seamonkey eggs, which a a powder.
put them in water and they will grow into seamonkeys.
I have done this.

You can buy dried plant seeds sealed in a vaccuum bag for 25 cents each, and plant that, add water and they grow.
I have done this with carrots, broccoli, and lettuce.
They were outdated in fact and still grew

I'm sure they can do the same with cycle starter.

bacteria does not have a cyst around it or protective layer,lol.

Cysts and seeds are very different than oxidizing bacteria! you are comparing apples and oranges.

 

[crucial09]

bacteria does not have a cyst around it or protective layer,lol.

Cysts and seeds are very different than oxidizing bacteria! you are comparing apples and oranges.

These seeds had no protective layer.
They looked like betta food.

They were questionably a seed.

 

[Milpool]

Reading the posts in this thread has really annoyed me. You are a "newbie" who has come here to ask for help and you are disagreeing with the help you are being offered. EVERYTHING Laticauda is telling you and helping you with is the truth. YOU NEED TO DO A WATER CHANGE! Your fish is being poisoned/burned from the tank not being properly cycled. It's not your fault, you did what you thought was right, but by disagreeing with experienced fishkeepers who are trying to help you is your fault.

 

[komodo182]

These seeds had no protective layer.
They looked like betta food.

They were questionably a seed.

A seed is the protective layer,lol.



I'm done now haha

Just do a water change and do some research.

read about cycling a tank, Understand the chemistry and biology at hand and you will then understand why people are getting annoyed on here and you will understand why water changes are important.

 

[ratrodmike]

Reading the posts in this thread has really annoyed me. You are a "newbie" who has come here to ask for help and you are disagreeing with the help you are being offered. EVERYTHING Laticauda is telling you and helping you with is the truth. YOU NEED TO DO A WATER CHANGE! Your fish is being poisoned/burned from the tank not being properly cycled. It's not your fault, you did what you thought was right, but by disagreeing with experienced fishkeepers who are trying to help you is your fault.

+1! I don't get it. You ask for advise, get exact answer you need plus other important information and you tell them they are wrong?? Please just change the water and help those poor fish!