North Korea Test Fires Missiles

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That is a seriuos problem. I think Japan needs to get in there and kick some N. Korean ***.
We really have no business going in there, only the countries that are closer to it should be involved with any invasion. Why must the US have their hands in all of the cookie jars?

Jen :swear:

haha Japans Military is our military..........
 
I don't even think there the missle made it anywhere. :ROFL: they make some killer fireworks but not missles. or do they not make fireworks? according to MSNBC it didn't even make it half the distance it was supposed to go :screwy:

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FULL INVASION!!! DROP THE NUKES AND WIPE 'EM ALL OUT!!!

j/k

heck if i know... the reasons why im not president, and why bush shouldnt be either... lol


The problems with N/Korea are not new, here's another problem inherited from the Clinton Adminstration::thumbsup:

"North Korea Says It Has a Program on Nuclear Arms" -- New York Times, Oct. 17, 2002
President Bill Clinton will be remembered by history for only one thing, which is a bit of a shame since his record is so thoroughly shabby and dishonorable that it deserves closer study.

Clinton's contribution to our vulnerability to terror has been well documented, and now comes news that another of his foreign policies has come to fruition. The North Koreans have admitted what close observers have suspected all along -- that they have a nuclear weapons program and may have already produced a number of bombs. (Oh, and by the way, worshippers of arms control treaties kindly note: North Korea is a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.)

The only mystery is why Pyongyang has now chosen to admit it.

In the early 1990s, North Korea, even more than other communist states, was drowning in the consequences of its system. People were starving. A congressional study estimated that as many as 1 million died of starvation by 1998. But the regime was no less belligerent for that. Pyongyang continued to build up its military and was aggressively pursuing nuclear capability. Though its facilities were supposed to be inspected by the International Atomic Energy Agency, North Korea persistently delayed inspections. Meanwhile, its aggressive posture and rhetoric toward South Korea continued, as did its development of long-range missiles.

President Clinton, observing this situation, saw what needed to be done: Pyongyang would have to be appeased. As former defense secretary William Perry put it, the administration thought it "necessary to move forward in a more positive way with North Korea." In exchange for a temporary freeze on its nuclear program and a mere promise to refrain from developing such weapons in the future, the Clinton administration extended nearly $1 billion in foreign aid for food and fuel oil, as well as promising to build two light water reactors for the North Koreans.
Certainly the administration must have attached conditions? Surely it insisted that the regime provide proof that the aid was not being used for military purposes, and it must have insisted on some form of political and economic liberalization? The Clinton administration must have tied this aid package to guarantees that the North Koreans would cease exporting ballistic missiles to nations like Iran and Pakistan? Actually, no. As Perry explained, "The policy team believed that the North Korean regime would strongly resist such reform ..."

The North Koreans, rewarded for their belligerence, naturally continued down the same path. (And the lesson was probably not lost on other dangerous regimes that seeking nuclear weapons can bring goodies from Washington.) In 1998, they tested a new, three-stage ballistic missile. Did the Clinton administration at last learn the lesson that appeasement does not work? Not quite. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and William Perry held a press conference to announce that the United States was continuing to pursue good relations with North Korea: "We must deal with the North Korean government as it is, not as we wish it would be."
Accordingly, the Clinton administration proposed to lift economic sanctions on North Korea if it promised -- but this time really, sincerely promised -- to stop development of long-range missiles. The North Korean government didn't even deign to respond for a full week -- but the Clinton administration relaxed sanctions anyway.


History is repeating itself, now we need someone with enough stones in office to take the bull by the horn..What future politician on the horizon as the ability? We need someone fast....
 
The "experts" and pundits are saying that N.Korea is making a big fuss about this
so that when the time comes to negotiate with the americans ( diplomatic talks etc. ) they can use this as leverage to get more privileges .. In short what they are doing is a political move to attract attention to the us.
 
The problems with N/Korea are not new, here's another problem inherited from the Clinton Adminstration::thumbsup:

"North Korea Says It Has a Program on Nuclear Arms" -- New York Times, Oct. 17, 2002
President Bill Clinton will be remembered by history for only one thing, which is a bit of a shame since his record is so thoroughly shabby and dishonorable that it deserves closer study.

Clinton's contribution to our vulnerability to terror has been well documented, and now comes news that another of his foreign policies has come to fruition. The North Koreans have admitted what close observers have suspected all along -- that they have a nuclear weapons program and may have already produced a number of bombs. (Oh, and by the way, worshippers of arms control treaties kindly note: North Korea is a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.)

The only mystery is why Pyongyang has now chosen to admit it.

In the early 1990s, North Korea, even more than other communist states, was drowning in the consequences of its system. People were starving. A congressional study estimated that as many as 1 million died of starvation by 1998. But the regime was no less belligerent for that. Pyongyang continued to build up its military and was aggressively pursuing nuclear capability. Though its facilities were supposed to be inspected by the International Atomic Energy Agency, North Korea persistently delayed inspections. Meanwhile, its aggressive posture and rhetoric toward South Korea continued, as did its development of long-range missiles.

President Clinton, observing this situation, saw what needed to be done: Pyongyang would have to be appeased. As former defense secretary William Perry put it, the administration thought it "necessary to move forward in a more positive way with North Korea." In exchange for a temporary freeze on its nuclear program and a mere promise to refrain from developing such weapons in the future, the Clinton administration extended nearly $1 billion in foreign aid for food and fuel oil, as well as promising to build two light water reactors for the North Koreans.
Certainly the administration must have attached conditions? Surely it insisted that the regime provide proof that the aid was not being used for military purposes, and it must have insisted on some form of political and economic liberalization? The Clinton administration must have tied this aid package to guarantees that the North Koreans would cease exporting ballistic missiles to nations like Iran and Pakistan? Actually, no. As Perry explained, "The policy team believed that the North Korean regime would strongly resist such reform ..."

The North Koreans, rewarded for their belligerence, naturally continued down the same path. (And the lesson was probably not lost on other dangerous regimes that seeking nuclear weapons can bring goodies from Washington.) In 1998, they tested a new, three-stage ballistic missile. Did the Clinton administration at last learn the lesson that appeasement does not work? Not quite. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and William Perry held a press conference to announce that the United States was continuing to pursue good relations with North Korea: "We must deal with the North Korean government as it is, not as we wish it would be."
Accordingly, the Clinton administration proposed to lift economic sanctions on North Korea if it promised -- but this time really, sincerely promised -- to stop development of long-range missiles. The North Korean government didn't even deign to respond for a full week -- but the Clinton administration relaxed sanctions anyway.


History is repeating itself, now we need someone with enough stones in office to take the bull by the horn..What future politician on the horizon as the ability? We need someone fast....

He beat me to it. :(
 
That is only the countries that are closer to it should be involved with any invasion. Why must the US have their hands in all of the cookie jars?

Jen :swear:

missle can still reach you!:eek:
 
i dont think we should let a 3rd world country develop better nukes so we can steal it from them, just seems like a bad thing. im with jenBLKAROWANA, i think some of the other countries should intervene before this gets any worse. why does the USA have to try to fix all the problems that are going on in other countries. we already have iraq to deal with lets see all those other countries mentioned do something about n. korea (but i guess japan cant do sht). russia doesnt sound too happy about nkorea's actions so their alliance may not be as strong as we think. i really want to see how the politicians, not only in the US, deal with this. and DAM good posts everybody :grinyes:
 
I don't even think there the missle made it anywhere. :ROFL: they make some killer fireworks but not missles. or do they not make fireworks? according to MSNBC it didn't even make it half the distance it was supposed to go :screwy:

553182819_l.jpg


Yes their technolgy is certainly suspect but in 1998 they fired one that landed of the coast of Alaska....one week earlier we where told by our Top military advisor they did not have missles. N/Korea is looking for more pay off money, the Clinton Admistration set that policy.
 
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