this is hard i believe in survival of the fittest but why is this one owl taking over is it because of man. I think this is a good idea but i can see this going horribly. wrong. (if it were a invasive taking over a native i would be fine with this)
Obama administration plan would kill rival bird to save spotted owl
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I think I remember the spotted owl being mentioned in the media during the Bush administration but I don't remember what the controversy was.Sad that things seem to have not gotten any better for the species since then.
Logging the forests makes sense. I've worked with wetlands conservation, and to save the wetlands species (orchids and pitcher plants, to name a few) we cut down and burn hardwoods.
In Virginia, we have an endangered woodpecker called the red cockaded woodpecker. It only nests in certain species of pines. These are fire reliant, so the area is burned when other trees start taking over. The spotted owl could be like this, only nesting in select trees.
This does seem like it's interfering with natural selection a bit, but I don't know the full situation. The barred owls could be getting pushed out of their native range by human activity, thus invading spotted owl territory. I'd have to read more on the situation to weigh in fully on it.
In Virginia, we have an endangered woodpecker called the red cockaded woodpecker. It only nests in certain species of pines. These are fire reliant, so the area is burned when other trees start taking over. The spotted owl could be like this, only nesting in select trees.
This does seem like it's interfering with natural selection a bit, but I don't know the full situation. The barred owls could be getting pushed out of their native range by human activity, thus invading spotted owl territory. I'd have to read more on the situation to weigh in fully on it.
A forest is full of different kinds of trees and this woodpecker will only nest in a certain tree.Amazing.
So this is basically a form of genocide when they kill the barrel owls. If they stop the loggers than the problem will be solved. Simple solution. Dam that was easy. Can someone tell President Obama that for me. We have to stop exporting all that wood to the middle east to rebuild those countries that was destroyed by the war. Oh we have to help them rebuild the country. That is the only human thing to do...(sarcasm)
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The reason they might be logging is to help keep forest fires down. Fewer trees smaller fire (if present). Also if there are more barrel owls (substantially) more trees might not be the answer(s). look at home range type and age of trees both live in, territory. This is some of the reasons this MIGHT be needed.
The reason they might be logging is to help keep forest fires down. Fewer trees smaller fire (if present). Also if there are more barrel owls (substantially) more trees might not be the answer(s). look at home range type and age of trees both live in, territory. This is some of the reasons this MIGHT be needed.
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Anything can be a reason including global warming. But actions have consequences. A famous person said something about for "every action there is a equal or greater reaction." Was that Newton? I think I found Newton's information. http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/newtlaws/u2l4a.cfm
Anything can be a reason including global warming. But actions have consequences. A famous person said something about for "every action there is a equal or greater reaction." Was that Newton? I think I found Newton's information. http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/newtlaws/u2l4a.cfm
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true, i don't know enough about this (and my guess is that people other than the biologists working on this nobody does) to talk to detailed. All I know is I would rather see some birds die that have numbers rather than a bird (or any critter) go extinct.
true, i don't know enough about this (and my guess is that people other than the biologists working on this nobody does) to talk to detailed. All I know is I would rather see some birds die that have numbers rather than a bird (or any critter) go extinct.
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True. They should have a detailed study on the animal before playing god. Not just one example of someone trying something out in a certain location. There could be other factors affecting the decline.
True. They should have a detailed study on the animal before playing god. Not just one example of someone trying something out in a certain location. There could be other factors affecting the decline.
sad either way
i'm sad for the spotted owl, but also sad if i had to stop a lonely spotted owl and a lonely barrel owl from having too much to drink one night and one thing leading to another
i'm sad for the spotted owl, but also sad if i had to stop a lonely spotted owl and a lonely barrel owl from having too much to drink one night and one thing leading to another
