OF ALL THE RIDICULOUS LEGISLATION!!

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It's illegal to import turtles for sale in Canada.

My local municipality bans such animals as; Syrian Wild ass, giant tortoises (at which point is a species considered giant?), boas and pythons of any kind, marsupials, Sea elephants, whales, hippos (but not Dwarf hippos?), "terrapins", lionfish and toadfish, etc.

However it is total ok to own; Cobras and other venomous elapids, komodo dragons, funnel-web spiders, stonefish, stingrays...etc

Toronto (and Mississauga) have a sensible animal bylaw prohibiting giant constrictors, huge monitors, crocodilians, venomous animals...stuff the general public should not be able to buy on a whim.
 
Yup, for my 100 gallon tank... :)
 
SimonL;1453991; said:
It's illegal to import turtles for sale in Canada.

My local municipality bans such animals as; Syrian Wild ass, giant tortoises (at which point is a species considered giant?), boas and pythons of any kind, marsupials, Sea elephants, whales, hippos (but not Dwarf hippos?), "terrapins", lionfish and toadfish, etc.

However it is total ok to own; Cobras and other venomous elapids, komodo dragons, funnel-web spiders, stonefish, stingrays...etc

Toronto (and Mississauga) have a sensible animal bylaw prohibiting giant constrictors, huge monitors, crocodilians, venomous animals...stuff the general public should not be able to buy on a whim.
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its illegal to import turtles?

you should check out some chinese stores (lotta tortoise, diamond terrapin, I even seen a baby FRT too)

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scroll down the list, you cant own any venomous animals/insects/spiders either

how about emperor scorpian, tarantula, poison dart frog.. etc etc

the list is endless

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BUT I still see them forsale from time to time in pet store, breeder and the black market

(tegu, nile monitor, caiman, etc etc, you name it, its there) its crazy

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The bylaw prohibiting giant constrictor (6ft+ (I forgot the size), so a baby green anaconda is under 6ft (I guess I can keep that) and it isnt that expensive to obtain one. For $199 and you can own the largest snake in the world x.x

people play around the rules :o and they exploit freedom :o

and Im sure a lot of people out in Ontario got lot of these monsters :o

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and if the government decide to suddently BAN all the exotic..

It might control importing, but the existing animals is still there
Its gonna encourage more smuggling and the price will go sky high
and... the rules are there, and its still that bad.. if the rules going to be more enforce,
I cant imagine what will happen... Supply and Demand...
 
Don't keep illegals in Ontario, you will be destroying everything Don Pogue and his fellows worked for. He among others tried his best to stop Ontario from banning exotics completely, especially in the GTA. There's a reason why he's named MODP (Mean/Miserable Old Don Pogue), because of people that participated in the implied situations like you outlined.

Turtles are illegal to import, period. Chinese don't care about the laws, and they get busted and shut down every so often but they keep re-opening.

There is no black market in Ontario, unless you are talking about turtles, herbivorous insects or native reptiles. If you live in a relatively unknown town or rural area, you can keep large varanids, crocodilians et cetera since there is no provincial-wide ban on them. Only the major cities and some of the well-known towns ban reptiles.
 
Kioka;1454520; said:
Turtles are illegal to import, period. Chinese don't care about the laws, and they get busted and shut down every so often but they keep re-opening.

There is no black market in Ontario, unless you are talking about turtles, herbivorous insects or native reptiles. If you live in a relatively unknown town or rural area, you can keep large varanids, crocodilians et cetera since there is no provincial-wide ban on them. Only the major cities and some of the well-known towns ban reptiles.
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I shouldve kept my mouth shut, after all this is a open public site :irked: doh! x.x

o...o I kinda feel offended by your chinese doesnt care about laws part, but not everyone is bad o..o x.x;; oh well, thats life! x.x
 
Strangely enough, it's not illegal to sell turtles...as long as they're "Bred in Canada", which is where the law runs into problems.

Kioka, I always wondered what "MODP" meant lol.

The bylaw prohibiting giant constrictor (6ft+ (I forgot the size), so a baby green anaconda is under 6ft (I guess I can keep that) and it isnt that expensive to obtain one. For $199 and you can own the largest snake in the world x.x
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That is exactly why there should be a bylaw...hell, you could buy a lethally venomous snake for the same amount of money. Kind of terrifying.

Oh and snakes with an adult length of 3m or more are prohibited. So anacondas are out.
 
SimonL;1454752; said:
Strangely enough, it's not illegal to sell turtles...as long as they're "Bred in Canada", which is where the law runs into problems.

Kioka, I always wondered what "MODP" meant lol.



That is exactly why there should be a bylaw...hell, you could buy a lethally venomous snake for the same amount of money. Kind of terrifying.

Oh and snakes with an adult length of 3m or more are prohibited. So anacondas are out.
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They never mention about adult, its just 3m or under :o so... yay! baby green anaconda :D
 
They never mention about adult, its just 3m or under :o so... yay! baby green anaconda
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This is cut and pasted from the City of Toronto bylaws department page (http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/municode/1184_349.pdf);

REPTILES
Crocodylia (such as alligators, crocodiles, gavials)
All snakes which reach an adult length larger than 3 metres <--------- :)
All lizards which reach an adult length larger than 2 metres
OTHER
All venomous and poisonous animals
 
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