Official Off Topic Discussion Thread #1

[Ulu]

“Who would imagine, that they could freak out in Minnesota?”. . .The Mothers
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Pretti was a big thug, injured fighting with the law just a week prior.

They let him go, and it appears that he didn't learn a thing from 2 cracked ribs.

Instead he freaked out and got himself shot in a second mele with the law.

How crazy is that? Where he shouldn’t have been, out in the street, armed and interfering with armed Feds?

It doesn't matter now what he did right in his life. He blew it when he stepped up to physically interfere with armed Feds the first time.

 

[dogofwar]

Yeah, that *thug* VA ICU nurse definitely deserved to be pepper sprayed, beaten by 7 masked men and shot 10 times for trying to help a lady that was shoved to the ground for (checks notes) existing in a public place. And how dare anyone with a concealed weapons permit (wait, how did a *terrorist* get one!!!!) be in public with a concealed weapon holstered on his person?! We're in complete agreement, as, I'm sure, are most Americans. At least the real ones.

Please proceed with your echo chamber and extended diatribes

 

[jjohnwm]

...in my best John Belushi voice:...

"FOOD FIGHT!!!!!"

 

[skjl47]

Yeah, that *thug* VA ICU nurse definitely deserved to be pepper sprayed, beaten by 7 masked men and shot 10 times for trying to help a lady that was shoved to the ground for (checks notes) existing in a public place. And how dare anyone with a concealed weapons permit (wait, how did a *terrorist* get one!!!!) be in public with a concealed weapon holstered on his person?! We're in complete agreement, as, I'm sure, are most Americans. At least the real ones.

Please proceed with your echo chamber and extended diatribes

Hello; Again with the echo chamber slur implying any who have a different point of view are subject to group think because we cannot draw conclusions as individuals. I do not know if you follow this and other threads regularly. If you did you might notice Ulu and I take different sides on issues often enough. Turns out there actually are facts people of different mindsets can agree to.

In this particular case a fact is when bystanders become participants in potentially violent encounters, there is a chance to get hurt. I had heard about the woman early on after the incident. I do not know if that woman was an innocent bystander of if she was actively interfering with the ICE officers as so many have been doing. A fact is the man shot was neither an innocent bystander nor was that fatal, for him, day his first time interfering with ICE. I have learned since my last post that he indeed gets some rib damage from a previous encounter with ICE.

To the language. In your post you put a word in quotes. That being "terrorist" in this case. A word among many getting thrown around willy-nilly anymore. I do not at this moment recall the particular minor thing which was aggravating a sitting legislator. Some teacher group was arguing against his proposal. I do not recall if I agreed with him or not. Being a teacher at the time what has stuck in my memory was that he declared on PBS radio that the teachers were "terrorists". I was turning right from US Hwy 119 onto US Hwy 25E at the time. Language abuse is become part of the conflict.
An example is that i no longer use the recent term "undocumented immigrant" which is become a pivot away from illegal alien. I understand the ploy anymore.

A telling thing is in the last few posts is so little reference to the criminal that ICE was trying to arrest at the time. The focus of all has been on the woman and the VA nurse. I am pleased when a violent criminal is taken off the streets. Pleased again when they are either locked up or sent out of the country. Deported is fine now that the border is closed as we taxpayers will not have to feed and house them and they cannot just sneak back in.
The ICE arrests and deportation of illegal aliens should be the main issue. Too bad state and local leaders are egging on these interference actions by folks. But the tactic is working to a degree. They have you along with others trying to spin who are the good guys and who are the bad guys.

 

[jjohnwm]

One person's "terrorist" is another's "insurrectionist" or "anarchist" or even "freedom fighter". They're all just words...the very malleable tools of the spin doctors who toil diligently in the shadows, day after day, working hard to make the world look and sound like they are paid to make it look and sound.

Once upon a time, three blind men encountered an elephant...

 

[Ulu]

There’s something to understand here, and that is that our MFK dog serves the same purpose on this forum as those organized protesters did out on the street in Minneapolis:

To sow confusion and anarchy with the typical Alinsky methods of insurrection.

It’s not productive to engage such creatures on any intellectual level. Any pretense of honest discourse from them is all just FUD.

If you follow such people down their verbal rabbit holes you will become a victim of your own efforts.

Their main goal is just to censor you. Failing that they will drag you into irrelevant nonsense. Be aware.

 

[skjl47]

There’s something to understand here, and that is that our MFK dog serves the same purpose on this forum as those organized protesters did out on the street in Minneapolis:

To sow confusion and anarchy with the typical Alinsky methods of insurrection.

It’s not productive to engage such creatures on any intellectual level. Any pretense of honest discourse from them is all just FUD.

If you follow such people down their verbal rabbit holes you will become a victim of your own efforts.

Their main goal is just to censor you. Failing that they will drag you into irrelevant nonsense. Be aware.

Hello; Thanks for this.

 

[Ulu]

I posted: “….they are not talking about how the Mn attorney general and the lieutenant governor were directly involved ….”

I guess someone is talking about it now, because they have sent Tom Homan to read the Mn gov a copy of the riot act.

Or something like that. He’s a rather imposing fellow you know.

 

[skjl47]

I posted: “….they are not talking about how the Mn attorney general and the lieutenant governor were directly involved ….”

I guess someone is talking about it now, because they have sent Tom Homan to read the Mn gov a copy of the riot act.

Or something like that. He’s a rather imposing fellow you know.

Hello; i know it is apples and oranges but here goes. Sometime not too long ago a young woman was convicted and i think sent to prison because a young man committed suicide. If I recall correctly, she was never physically near the young man. Only online or maybe on the phone. In other words, she was nowhere near when he killed himself. She apparently encouraged him to take his life. For that she was convicted.

I am both old and also learned old sayings. The "sticks & stones" rhyme. That conviction of the young woman changed the world for me. Was among the things which got me to thinking in terms of living in a Stephen King story. ( Side note- seems even King himself has fallen victim if reports are correct. For decades i had pictured him as being above it all.)

 

[dogofwar]

I posted: “….they are not talking about how the Mn attorney general and the lieutenant governor were directly involved ….”

I guess someone is talking about it now, because they have sent Tom Homan to read the Mn gov a copy of the riot act.

Or something like that. He’s a rather imposing fellow you know.

If by "imposing" you mean caught in an FBI sting accepting a $50,000 bribe in a paper bag... Yeah, Tom Homan is going to bring law and order to the situation.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-aide-homan-accepted-50000-bribery-sting-operation-sources-say-2025-09-21/