OK the Bass Setup....HELP NEEDED
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jpatz18;472706; said:...Please expalin this set up thanks,,,,
Wow, you got the deal of the century there!
Here is a list of what you have in the pictures:
Second & third pic- wet/dry filter. This goes under your tank and is hooked up after your overflow (the funky clear box). You will need a pump or power head in the right side to pump water up to your tank. The left side is filled with blue Bio-balls (about $30 worth).
Fourth & fifth pic- your overflow. This goes on the edge of your tank just like the pump/filter on your girlfriends tank. The side with the slots goes in the tank and the fitting on the bottom is where you should connect the hose that is in your wet/dry filter.
Sixth pic- the loop for the overflow. Fill this with water before installing. It will be tricky but you need to get all of the air out. Depending on your water flow, it may get small amounts of air out on its own.
7&8- I am not sure. Either an air pump or power head. Someone else here may know.
9th- cant tell, likely a power head (type of pump)
12- definitely a power head
13- not sure but either a pump or another power head
14- definitely a power head
Remaining pics- return line from wet/dry. Hangs over the edge of the tank
ok, so i set up the magnum untill i get the time to set up the "wet dry" I also have my bass (2) 4-6 inches (8 blue gill small size) (2 gold fish) Heres my problem the bass are not eating. Some blue gills are... How long should i wait before returning them if they dont eat.. I dont want to kill them...I plan on getting rid of all the blue gills in about 2 days just to boost the anomia up so the bacteria rises
thanks i figured for 60 i could go wrong the canster came with the 29 gallon one for 40.00 and he overflow came with the 75 gallon one. Lol we brought all the fish tanks they had except one because they want 250 for it. Because it has a canopy and metal halide. Or something along those lines. Cherry wood finish though nice but for 250 seems high. that one is 85 gallons
jpatz18;474486; said:
Are they in the new tank? The tank needs to be cycled (bacteria growth) so that the bacteria can process all the ammonia. Take a water sample to Walmart (fish dept.) and ask them to test the water. You may have high levels which are stressing the fish. Basicaly the solution is to do several daily water changes until the problem is solved. I would also get rid of the blue gill and goldfish now. The tank should be cycled with disposable fish because the spikes in ammonia and nitrites can reach toxic levels. Right now the tank may only be able to handle the bass.
jpatz18;474597; said:
What size was the one for 250? I am getting the change out of the couch as we speak
LOL. 85 or 125 they where not sure...YES the fish are in there now my tank will still have to cycle, even though i had used the sand from the lake? I figured since i used the sand and water that there was enough bacteria in the sand and water to eat it. (guess thats what i get for figuring) So i taken the blue gill out and the gold fish, what should i feed them(BASS)? If they dont eat when should i take them back to the lake> 4 days max? What should i try to feed them? Should i LEAVE live night crawlers in there?
The sand from the lake will not help unless you have water flow going through it. The sand here is too small to use that way. You can seed your filters with old filter sludge. Put either old filter media or the gunk from one into your new filter to give its bacteria culture a jump start. If the filter was not bleached and has been in recent use, then it already has a small colony remaining on it. By removing the blue gill and goldfish, what you are doing is allowing the bacteria to catch up to the waste load. I would do 20% daily water changes with the lake water until the bass seem to be doing better. If they worsen or do not do better within four days, then set them free and get some more blue gill or different bass to finish the cycling. Bass should eat anything that moves (as long as they are hungry). Do not leave night crawlers or any other uneaten food in there because it will contribute to the waste load.
Fish can and do go several days without eating. I often cut open the stomachs of fish while cleaning them just to see what native foods (and future bait) they are eating. I often find empty stomachs with only my bait. I have fished many times in the Gulf without getting a bite until the tide changed. Then 60 seconds would not pass before catching another fish. Those that I kept often would have empty stomachs.
I am not saying that simulating a tide change will do anything for bass, just that they may not want to eat (normal when stressed from ammonia), and several days without food will not hurt. Test their willingness to take food daily. A day or two after lowering the ammonia should be enough to get them back to normal.
Fish can and do go several days without eating. I often cut open the stomachs of fish while cleaning them just to see what native foods (and future bait) they are eating. I often find empty stomachs with only my bait. I have fished many times in the Gulf without getting a bite until the tide changed. Then 60 seconds would not pass before catching another fish. Those that I kept often would have empty stomachs.
I am not saying that simulating a tide change will do anything for bass, just that they may not want to eat (normal when stressed from ammonia), and several days without food will not hurt. Test their willingness to take food daily. A day or two after lowering the ammonia should be enough to get them back to normal.
