Opinions on Tank Dimensions

[Bderick67]

I think that based on 12 of your 13 responses to the feedback of others.

Of those replies where any actually in response to an opinion/answer to my original question?

My opinion was I didn't see much difference between the two tanks. Is that yours too?

As my opinion is that there is not much difference between the two tanks, I don't believe it is the same as yours. I respect and value your's and many others opinions here. I will not however put any validity in replies regarding tank size by people whom never have even kept large cichlids. Or worse those hypocritical ones that keep their equal in size festae pair in a 75g tank for years, but tell me mine need bigger.

 

[Bderick67]

pics

 

[HULON]

Simply Beautiful!!!!

 

[cchhcc]

As my opinion is that there is not much difference between the two tanks, I don't believe it is the same as yours. I respect and value your's and many others opinions here. I will not however put any validity in replies regarding tank size by people whom never have even kept large cichlids. Or worse those hypocritical ones that keep their equal in size festae pair in a 75g tank for years, but tell me mine need bigger.

Haha! I know what you mean!

Looking at the photos, they look perfectly happy to me. I wouldn't mess with it. They're really nice fish, and once they get into a "rhythm" nothing good usually comes from disturbing it. Changing from their existing tank to the 30x30 just wouldn't be worth the risks IMO.

One of the best Midas I've ever seen ("Fireball" -- winner of many show awards) lived in a 55. Lots of great breeders are keeping RD types in smaller tanks than yours, so it's certainly possible that your situation is just fine. I prefer a larger tank due in some part to my desire to mix more fish in with breeders......but then again I expect/hope all the fry are eventually eaten! If you're just looking for a pair of breeders, a 75 is a good all around tank.

 

[cchhcc]

..........but if you think they need a bigger tank, you can always send them to me!

; )

 

[dannyboiiii]

With respect, why would you ask for opinions if you aren't going to consider them? it seems as though you want people to confirm your current situation rather than to offer what may be a different way of looking at the situation.

If you had the opportunity to watch my tank for a while, you'd see efforts to survive predation, reproduce, graze inverts and micro-organisms from algae, as well as a variety of social interaction. We can clearly never quite have a truly natural setting, but we can come much closer than it seems you want to consider. That we can't mirror nature doesn't disqualify the benefits of making our best efforts to do so.

Regardless, I'm more interested in seeing your labs themselves than their tank! I always love to see wild specimens of that species -- each one is unique!

I agree. It seems you got upset about peoples opinions of you keeping them in the 75 or getting a bigger tank... If your decision is set then why bother. Also that is exactly what i was talking about with natural behavior. I feel one of a fish keepers goals should be to try and display the fish in the most natural way possible.

Don't think most would consider angels as large sa/ca cichlids, but better then the tetras. Yes bigger is better, but why did not you provide a bigger/better tank for the angels? Yes there are always reasons aren't there?

your right, angelfish dont get 11+ inches long so a pair is fine in a 50 breeder....
and of corse they were moved to that tank for that specific reason, from my 75 gal..


btw i wasn't trying to flame you but honestly its just sad when ppl cramp fish into tight places ... today i ran into a friend and at my lfs and he told me about his 6 rb piranas he has in his 30 gal tank.......ignorance

ur set up with the 75 is what u should keep them in they look fine, and also they dont look like there 11 an 8 inches by ur pics when compared to ur tank, and also that tank is pretty tall maybe a 90???

 

[Bderick67]

I agree. It seems you got upset about peoples opinions of you keeping them in the 75 or getting a bigger tank...

Ya I was getting tired of having to reply to these moronic type posts below

yea ur right huh...mise well put those fish ina betta bowl...

tank size and decor have all to do with fish and there behavior i dont know where you've been getting your info from....thats a pretty ignorant comment if you ask me....
but i'll answer your question the 70 gal is to small, and the 75gal isn't to much better. But if you refuse to give them a better home then the 75 is what you should keep them in. Thats like making your dog live in your bathroom, Of corse you could do it, but i't probably isn't the best thing to do yeaaaaaaaa....

Even if it is "working" either tank is a little small they need the footprint of a 125 or larger.

Especially when this guy posts this about his similar in sized and temperament cichlids in a 75g tank

Tank is plenty big enough.I've ben keeping fish over 20 yrs but thanks for being concerned for the fish.

Wrong it's 18" wide.It's a 75.The male is 12" and female is 8-9.And they have a 135 when they are too big for the 75

 

[polish]

I guess people need to remember what they post.

 

[Bderick67]

Haha! I know what you mean!

Looking at the photos, they look perfectly happy to me. I wouldn't mess with it. They're really nice fish, and once they get into a "rhythm" nothing good usually comes from disturbing it. Changing from their existing tank to the 30x30 just wouldn't be worth the risks IMO.

One of the best Midas I've ever seen ("Fireball" -- winner of many show awards) lived in a 55. Lots of great breeders are keeping RD types in smaller tanks than yours, so it's certainly possible that your situation is just fine. I prefer a larger tank due in some part to my desire to mix more fish in with breeders......but then again I expect/hope all the fry are eventually eaten! If you're just looking for a pair of breeders, a 75 is a good all around tank.

Thanks, as I said before the 75g (actually two 75g tanks)will be replaced by a 240g tank and I will not be keeping either of the 75s running. The 30x30 is way to costly for that size tank so it will not be an option. Most likely this pair will be either in a 120 or 125g tank as I have had them over 3 years and I don't plan on getting rid of them.

 

[High City Rida]

Brian my opinion is keep them where there at until the 240g comes in. Are you planning on community mixing them later? Of course the 2 you gave me are seperated becuase they breed anywhere as you know. But also yes I think width will increase growth rate for all my obvious experience and past conversations.

I often have the feeling of keeping captive Ca/Sa in these little tanks. Even the 350g was to small. Of course I feel we can never really give them a complete Natural enviroment as well. That being said per our last meet I mentioned all my pairs would be fine to breed and live in the 100g that I have and I would rather have one for all my pairs if it had to be there perminant home. Just my .02.

By the way the Male Red Devil is getting his hump and mixing very well in the 240g. HE'S still a bully though and I love him.