options for a 75 gal
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I'll have to admit also, while a 75 is a great sized tank, I feel that its too small to house a group of pygo's for the long run.
Alot of people have tried Nattereri (usually in groups of 3 or 4). Some have had success, and some not.
Natts are the only one I would do this with. Caribe just grow too large. Its not unusual for juvenile Caribe's to make it to 12" + having been properly cared for. Three caribe at even 9" or 10" would scare me in a 75 gallon, of course this would take a little time, but nowhere near a serra's growth speed.
And I know you love that driftwood, I would too, but it would have to go to make room for swimming. Or at leat cut down.
If your looking to keep a piranha in this tank for the long run, I'd reccomend going with a solitary species, pygo or serra. With the right fish, it would never be sitting still. Constantly patroling his tank.
I'm now trying to decide what I'm going to get next. I'm back and forth about it. A month ago it was a Manny. Now I'm dead set on a solitary Piraya with high redish-orange flames.
Alot of people have tried Nattereri (usually in groups of 3 or 4). Some have had success, and some not.
Natts are the only one I would do this with. Caribe just grow too large. Its not unusual for juvenile Caribe's to make it to 12" + having been properly cared for. Three caribe at even 9" or 10" would scare me in a 75 gallon, of course this would take a little time, but nowhere near a serra's growth speed.
And I know you love that driftwood, I would too, but it would have to go to make room for swimming. Or at leat cut down.
If your looking to keep a piranha in this tank for the long run, I'd reccomend going with a solitary species, pygo or serra. With the right fish, it would never be sitting still. Constantly patroling his tank.
I'm now trying to decide what I'm going to get next. I'm back and forth about it. A month ago it was a Manny. Now I'm dead set on a solitary Piraya with high redish-orange flames.
Howdy,
Does anyone have experience with the smaller species, also availability? I only know these from books, so here we go.
1) Serrasalmus denticulatus (8'')
2) Serrasalmus hollandi (8'') - are those in post #1 definitely not hollandi? I'd be surprised to see George mislabel piranhas, and they look pretty similar to Mergus Vol.6 p. 146 (German Ed.)?!
(Are these serras also only for single specimen tanks?)
3) Catoprion mento (6'')? (others say these stay smaller - anyone kept them? Keeping as school okay? I know, technically not a "true" P.)
Nic - That's a good idea, and I thought the same when I saw exodons at the SA, but somehow it didn't click ... I may have to go there again to double-check
Thanks again
Does anyone have experience with the smaller species, also availability? I only know these from books, so here we go.
1) Serrasalmus denticulatus (8'')
2) Serrasalmus hollandi (8'') - are those in post #1 definitely not hollandi? I'd be surprised to see George mislabel piranhas, and they look pretty similar to Mergus Vol.6 p. 146 (German Ed.)?!
(Are these serras also only for single specimen tanks?)
3) Catoprion mento (6'')? (others say these stay smaller - anyone kept them? Keeping as school okay? I know, technically not a "true" P.)
Nic - That's a good idea, and I thought the same when I saw exodons at the SA, but somehow it didn't click ... I may have to go there again to double-check
Thanks again
Don't know if you checked here yet...
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/piranha038/genusPygopristis.html
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/piranha038/hollandi.html
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/piranha038/genusCatoprion.html
With Hollandis, its real touchy. Almost all that are sold under this name are mislabeled actually being Serrasalmus Sanchezi or of the Serrasalmus Compressus complex. Both George and Pedro sell fish labeled Hollandi, however, it is my understanding that their fish have a black "V" at the base of the tail and a black or darkened terminal band at the edge of their tails. A true Holland's piranha lacks this terminal band completely only having the black "v" at the base of the tail.
Also keep in mind that all of Hollandi's physical features were collected off a single specimen. Making it all a real possibilty to question if the species really exsists or if it is just a complex of S. compressus.
I don't believe at all that the owners of Shark Aquarium or Aquascape are trying to mislead potential buyers. I think that they are just going buy what they are told.
Wimpel piranhas cannont be kept in shoals. They will destroy eachother being scale eaters.
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/piranha038/genusPygopristis.html
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/piranha038/hollandi.html
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/piranha038/genusCatoprion.html
With Hollandis, its real touchy. Almost all that are sold under this name are mislabeled actually being Serrasalmus Sanchezi or of the Serrasalmus Compressus complex. Both George and Pedro sell fish labeled Hollandi, however, it is my understanding that their fish have a black "V" at the base of the tail and a black or darkened terminal band at the edge of their tails. A true Holland's piranha lacks this terminal band completely only having the black "v" at the base of the tail.
Also keep in mind that all of Hollandi's physical features were collected off a single specimen. Making it all a real possibilty to question if the species really exsists or if it is just a complex of S. compressus.
I don't believe at all that the owners of Shark Aquarium or Aquascape are trying to mislead potential buyers. I think that they are just going buy what they are told.
Wimpel piranhas cannont be kept in shoals. They will destroy eachother being scale eaters.
