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[Hendre]

I wish my sen stayed tiny, so much personality in a small fish. Then again I can't wait to build a beast!

SB are basically a genetic strain. I would avoid the weird fish like that imo

 

[kno4te]

Hv

It is a form of defect in their genes, most or maybe all SB are CB but i might be wrong. Vancouver_98683 moe214 kno4te Hao Dr.B
Cohazard might be able to answer it better.

Havent seen a SB that wasn't cb yet. Meaning all are captive bred.

 

[kno4te]

Its a gene that get bred and rebred to achieve these SB's. That's all.

 

[moe214]

Hv
Havent seen a SB that wasn't cb yet. Meaning all are captive bred.

Well, the extreme sb I'd agree with you, but if the gene existed, it originated from wild specimens, which could mean there were possible semi short bodies out there in the wild and since they do maintain the same color I don't see why they couldn't live a decent life. But I'm speaking for semi short bodied fish, maybe even less. But the regular sb that are extreme, I agree with you, they were made through selective breeding taking the shortest fish of batches and inbreeding, and then taking the shortest from there and mixing with another batch of sb so the gene pool doesn't get to messed up, and so on till they get as short a fish as they're looking for that can survive.

 

[kno4te]

The gene exists but not in the wild. The dominant gene is to have to have the size for the wild. That gene is in the wild and active. Be big and won't get eaten. Technically the bigger the better lol.

They could exist in the wild but likely get eaten unless in Polyaddict86 's tank or Fran's tank. The possibility exists though. Maybe get lucky and find one without the cb look to it.

 

[Dr.B]

SB fish are essentially a selectively bred version of the species. You simply take the smallest fish of each batch and breed them, eventually you get fish that are smaller and more condensed. Problem is, they tend to have numerous health complications because their bodies and organs aren't equipped to deal with the shortened body size. Also the size of SBs varies greatly and really depends on what you believe a SB really is. For example some people will say a 12" endlicheri is a SB, some will say semi-SB, some will say it's just stunted, and some will say it's a normal sized endlicheri that just doesn't grow as large due to its CB traits. Once you have fish that have been CB for a while it's hard to really tell if they are truely SB or just a product of mass reporoduction succumbing to a reduction of size. Whatever way you think ab it, the fish aren't naturally made to be that small and end up having difficult lives dealing with the abnormalities and having to cope with differences and limitations.

 

[Dr.B]

As far as wild mutations, genetically speaking, there are so many possibilities of the different kinds of traits you could find in a WC fish. The possibilities are almost endless. However you have to look at the logistics, 1) there's an extremely slim chance a natural mutation will occur as is 2) the fish has to actually survive and get caught 3) the mutation the fish has will most likely make it stand out to predators, making it nearly impossible for the fish to survive past the younger stages of life. And keep in mind the older it gets the larger and more of a problem the mutation may become. So usually when you see a SB or different colored fish (albino, melanistic, xanthic) it will most likely not be WC. Don't get me wrong, there are fish that do defy the odds and make it well past the early stages of life, but it's only on extremely rare occurrences

 

[Polyaddict86]

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What about a platinum poly, what are the chances it will be a WC specimen?

 

[kno4te]

Very low sad to say.

 

[Vancouver_98683]

Low, low, low, low...