Orino's

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That's a tease esp if you wanted a certain one. Not saying either is better...
 
Nexxus;2837537; said:
Party pooper..:(

You font see many colombians tho. Like the one in your avatar brian.

I have kept orinos for about 6 months high. I am still learning aswell. But orinos are my grail

You answered your own question.........6 months is still in the infancy stage my friend. Wait until you have a bunch of years under your belt :)

Oh, and some of the absolute most impressive orinos that I have ever seen were Colombians!! They were not quite as sexy as Shakira, but close in a geeky sort of way :)
 
So why don't they turn up like the VZ? Are they more rare?

I know I'm an infant cichla keeper. Never said I was a pro like BS ;) I know the basics tho
 
High City Rida;2837546; said:
I would agree and the point I was making is that I see the differences in my OWN tanks no one else's period. I beleive that the batch of Orinos that we recieved were collected from more then one area and kept together before shipped out. So I possiably got two different sp because of the storage of many Orino's and then shipping them all under one banner. I don't even Id cichla anymore for anyone. I just make sure I got what I want so I can continue my OWN education. This is also why I buy my Cichla one at a time now just to see the variation's of the same sp. hopefully.
I think this is excellent. Variation is the spice of life (is that the right saying?)!

You will not see dramatic variation until your Cichla mature, so just wait until they are several years old.

Until then...... :popcorn:
 
Nexxus;2837565; said:
So why don't they turn up like the VZ? Are they more rare?

I know I'm an infant cichla keeper. Never said I was a pro like BS ;) I know the basics tho

Because all Cichla are illegal to export in all countries they are native to. It takes a lot of money, time, and desire to apply for the proper permits for the exporters to be able to buy them from the collectors and export them legally. Even then, you all must realize that Cichla do not transport well...as many of you have found out the hard way....and they only try to ship specimens under, say 6 inches or so. Those that size are NOT AVAILABLE all year long.
 
Brian Scott;2837539; said:
Well, yes and no. Listen to me carefully please:
Let's say you have a 200-gallon tank and you buy 6 orinos from Rapps and he says they are from the Rio Atabapo, Colombia. Then you buy 6 more from Rich at IF, and he says they are from the Rio Orinoco, VZ. You put the VZ ones in another 200-gallon tank. You grow both groups in their respective tanks up for one year.
At the end of the year....some from each tank will look like each other from a different tank. The more you have the more variation you get. Why do I know this? I did it :)


Exactlly good point Brian! And also not everyone is forth coming with past experience's or knowledge as they should so were left to our own experience's as I am currently dealing with!
 
Really the variation that Brian is speaking of is from all his years of experience and the knowledge he aquired. I would even go as far to say the one in his avater in not your average Orino. And truthfully on a bigger picture all Cichla are Varient's of the four major Sp. Just look at Pinima vs Tem's.
 
Thanks guys. I just enjoy sharing knowledge that I have gained from those far more experienced than I am. Sadly, only a very very few come on these boards and talk Cichla trash...so you are mostly forced to deal with me...sorry about that LOL!!
 
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