OSCARS WONT LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[piranha45]

what do u do if ur tap water has high alkaline and and chlorine

get dechlorinator at your LFS, and ignore the high alkalinity, which is actually a very good thing because it keeps your water parameters constant.

 

[PeacockBass]

the bacteria that live in the gravel bed are aerobic meaning that they need a constant water flow to the bottom of the tank with a great deal of oxygen in it. you have not said what type of filter you are using but my guess would be a large penguin bio wheel or possibly a fluval or hot magnum each of which only gets oxygen at most 1/2 inch down into the gravel bed where it is emptying into and then when you do your massive water change you bury the gravel that did have bacteria on it thus killing all that bacteria that had been growing.

I have kept 4 large parrot cichlids in a 75 with a UGF and also yes I do have oscars both of which have dug but am yet to have one break the plate I have been doing it for years and recommend it to anyone who wants to keep fish because in my experience maybe not yours but at least for me the UGF has proven far superior...

100% incorrect.


Please, tell me how you know this?
Where did you come up with the conclusion that the above said powerfilters dont allow O2 to reach deep into the gravel bed?
Do you know about anaerobic bacteria by chance?
How do you know vacuming the gravel will destroy the aerobic bacteria?


You are incorrect.

 

[sleepyflight]

100% incorrect.


Please, tell me how you know this?
Where did you come up with the conclusion that the above said powerfilters dont allow O2 to reach deep into the gravel bed?
Do you know about anaerobic bacteria by chance?
How do you know vacuming the gravel will destroy the aerobic bacteria?


You are incorrect.

As much as PB is a pain in the balls He's totally right.....anyone here chemically knowledged??? If I remember correctly PB is, which is why I totally agree. Most of the distribution of O2 in a tank won't neccesarily happen because you're causing more flow in that particular area...eg. and UGF. The O2 should reach it almost equivalently simply because of any osmotic process, diffusion, tindall effect...ect. Some of those deal w/diff. types of particles. Even aeration stones don't "put" O2 in the water. It simply helps drive a current and churn the surface to let the true chemical exchange of gasses work. Vacuuming can even sometimes help get rid of(or unfortunately sometimes disperse) harmful gasses that may be trapped down there which typically could be only taking space and inhibiting the natural movent of water to help spur the benificial bacteria on. Wouldn't an UGF be like a constant vaccuum??

An undergravel filter will work but unless you come up with some true chemical knowledge of what I believe to be a blastphemous statement....please research this before making the poor boy/girl spend more money on something that may be entirely uneccessary.

One more time kid......give us the freaking water conditions....IN DETAIL!!

 

[Miles]

As much as PB is a pain in the balls He's totally right.....anyone here chemically knowledged??? If I remember correctly PB is, which is why I totally agree. Most of the distribution of O2 in a tank won't neccesarily happen because you're causing more flow in that particular area...eg. and UGF. The O2 should reach it almost equivalently simply because of any osmotic process, diffusion, tindall effect...ect. Some of those deal w/diff. types of particles. Even aeration stones don't "put" O2 in the water. It simply helps drive a current and churn the surface to let the true chemical exchange of gasses work. Vacuuming can even sometimes help get rid of(or unfortunately sometimes disperse) harmful gasses that may be trapped down there which typically could be only taking space and inhibiting the natural movent of water to help spur the benificial bacteria on. Wouldn't an UGF be like a constant vaccuum??

An undergravel filter will work but unless you come up with some true chemical knowledge of what I believe to be a blastphemous statement....please research this before making the poor boy/girl spend more money on something that may be entirely uneccessary.

One more time kid......give us the freaking water conditions....IN DETAIL!!

Hang on back filters can easily be modified to hold 10x the amount of Nitrifying bacteria content they were usually designed to hold. The new bio-matrix biological media is suppose to be amazingly porous, for a larger surface area of bacterial growth. I often take Bio-Wheel filters and install silk bags full of ceramic media rings, and shove them in ANY comparment I can find in ANY filters. All of my filters are stuffed to the max with 'surface' area for Biological filtration, not a single UGF.

Regardless of the arguement.. 2 things..

1) An Oscar is going to dig up an undergravel filter, so who cares..

2) Large frequent water changes are the best thing for your fish..

We are in the process of brainstorming the new facility. We intend on making a 24/7 water change system. This reminds me of something that fish see in the nature.. H'rm. Oh.. a River! With a continous water change!

 

[Starfish]

Might be the tank size

 

[Hasi]

Might be the tank size

No. The tank is a 125g