Overflow predicament
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I don't have any kind of box on my glass 125. No siphons. No weir. no tower.
If you drill the back and can put plumbing on the back, no box is required at all.
My drain strainer turns by hand in one bulkhead fitting to set the water level. There's an overflow drain in the other fitting.
I put a "p" trap before the sump, on both, to control noise. And it keeps out bugs since my sump is outdoors. Each drain has a valve, but I don't throttle the emergency drain.
I just ordered two 2.4" holes in the back of my tank, 4" down from the top. Two 1.5" drains go straight thru the wall.
If you drill the back and can put plumbing on the back, no box is required at all.
My drain strainer turns by hand in one bulkhead fitting to set the water level. There's an overflow drain in the other fitting.
I put a "p" trap before the sump, on both, to control noise. And it keeps out bugs since my sump is outdoors. Each drain has a valve, but I don't throttle the emergency drain.
I just ordered two 2.4" holes in the back of my tank, 4" down from the top. Two 1.5" drains go straight thru the wall.
The "I" is great. I'm using it on my 75g. Yes I know overkill better safe then sorry.
Yes true and ive had them leak its not to bad and they dont usually just start leaking for no reason once they have been running for a few days. Unlike the hang on overflows, power goes out and then back on syphon doesnt restart your sump is pumped dry and onto your floor. Burn up the pump in the process. Lucky I was home and heard the water hitting the floor. Seems could come apart on the tank too. If it was glass a panel could shatter/crack. Alot of things could happen but of them all the hang on back malfunctioning is the more probable.
Well, anything with a siphon really is more risky.
Catastrophic bulkhead failure is probably very rare when the plumbing is done well.
But poor plumbing jobs are not uncommon.
Also I hate the hoses. To me, hoses say "temporary setup". I have dogs and cats that could chew up most hose given half a chance. They love to chew vinyl because of the smell. Rigid plumbing is safer IMO.
Catastrophic bulkhead failure is probably very rare when the plumbing is done well.
But poor plumbing jobs are not uncommon.
Also I hate the hoses. To me, hoses say "temporary setup". I have dogs and cats that could chew up most hose given half a chance. They love to chew vinyl because of the smell. Rigid plumbing is safer IMO.
Ive used a small section of hose when I had an in sump pump to attach from pump to pvc. I have spaflex in my setup right now. I really kind of like it. Although my plumbing looks like crap its solid!
I don't mind a short hose, inside the sump, to ease alignment and quell vibration.
I've used spa hose, flexPVC and garden hose too. FlexPVC is too rigid to help vibration as a garden hose does. Strong as hell though, and chew resistant. Also very expensive.
Spa hose gunks up more inside because of the convolutions. I've used the reinforced vinyl and the corrugated polypropylene types and they're too thin to trust for me. I dog-proofed the exposed bits for safety.
On another topic, I had a dog chew the reinforced plastic water hose on my toilet once. That was a mess. I since have always used stainless steel braided hoses on the toilets.
I've used spa hose, flexPVC and garden hose too. FlexPVC is too rigid to help vibration as a garden hose does. Strong as hell though, and chew resistant. Also very expensive.
Spa hose gunks up more inside because of the convolutions. I've used the reinforced vinyl and the corrugated polypropylene types and they're too thin to trust for me. I dog-proofed the exposed bits for safety.
On another topic, I had a dog chew the reinforced plastic water hose on my toilet once. That was a mess. I since have always used stainless steel braided hoses on the toilets.
Those siphons don't care if they don't sit all the way down you know.
You don't want them to touch bottom, that's for sure.
But if the ends are well in the water that's all you need.
Ulu
I understand but the problem with that is the canopy, which is beautifully crafted, would need to be cut in order to accommodate the tubes... so the fact that they don't sit properly on the actual overflow rim and I would have to cut my canopy makes it a lose lose.
Really, I don't recommend siphons at all, if you have a choice.
I still use them, but I have fail-safe systems.
I still use them, but I have fail-safe systems.
