My male attacks the top of my aquarium so much I took off the glass because I'm afraid he's going to break it. His tank is in my livingroom and we are so tired of him smacking the glass and making us jump that I'm ready to let him go. If you look at broberts1030 picture you will see him, if it's not the same fish , it's identical, I got them from Jeff Rapps. He's missing a small piece of his fin. He's 13"+ and has a 7"+ female. They have bred twice in the last 5-6 months and get along just fine. I live in California, in the High Desert if anybody is interested. I payed an arm and a leg for them, but will sell them for a reasonable price ($125) if anybody is interested.