Parachromis w/amphilophus

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bumping my own old thread here... so back to speculation. Is trying to keep a pair of Midas or Devils or a smaller parachromis species in a 125 gal maxing out the tank? IE would it be reckless to try to include other smaller cichlids, catfish and dithers. The plan would be, if this ever comes to fruition, would be to grow out 6 juveniles to form the pair and add all other tank mates to the setup so a pecking order can be established.

I now understand what you meant by target fish.

I have some beautiful big siquia that look like mini barred midas ( nuchal hump and all) which i think would look great with a orange/white devil or midas pair.

has anyone here done an all male convict type cichlid setup? for those with smaller footprint tanks this seems like a cool, often overlooked setup.
 
In my opinion, the 125 will most likely be maxxed out with the amph/para pair. If you got an unusually passive pair and had lots of rockwork the convicts *might* be okay, certainly no better fish to try it with, but if you care about the convicts I would leave them out. Pretty good chance they will be killed.
 
In my opinion, the 125 will most likely be maxxed out with the amph/para pair. If you got an unusually passive pair and had lots of rockwork the convicts *might* be okay, certainly no better fish to try it with, but if you care about the convicts I would leave them out. Pretty good chance they will be killed.

Thanks for the quick reply and sound advice.
Do you think the scenario changes at all if we are talking a single male ( whether it be midas, devil, jag, etc.) in lieu of the pair?

My only prior experience with either devil or midas was a very passive female midevil that was grown out in and lived for 3 years in a 55g ( which i thought was huge) with a male Oscar and other ill advised tank mates including a pair of cons and their countless fry- i dont intend to replicate this tank but it did work and i had zero issues the entire time. After (3) years i was between places and left the hobby for a few years.
 
Single male completely changes the scenario, although it really depends on the personality of the individual fish. But with a single male, there is a good chance you could put the convicts in there as well (with enough hiding spots). The fry-defense behavior really sends aggression through the roof and makes it hard to keep anything with a pair of large cichlids. This will also depend on species- A Managuense will get too large for 125, loisellei will be less aggressive than motaguense, etc. But if you do a single male with the group of male cons, I'd say you have a good chance of it working.
 
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Agree a solo male Amph/para with all male convicts may work depending on the individual personality of the fish but there is always going to be risks.
I will also say a big male amph will fill a 125 gal on its own. Andy woods has just put his devil solo in a 160 gal, mainly cus it's absolutely mental, but it more then fills the tank.

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A 125 gallon tank is not a big tank at all. I know it seems big, it's 6 feet and all -- it's not. A 125 is small for a single wet pet--like a Jag or a Trimac. A Lyonsi in a 125 is not too good either if the Lysonsi hits full adult size.
 
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Do a pair of cubans and a group of nic.
 
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