Parents aren't cool with my idea...

[clgkag]

Maybe your parents see the extra tanks as a hitch in your economic recovery progress. Personally, I would concentrate on getting back on your own feet and in your own housing again before spending more on a hobby that is a luxury and not a necessity.

Kinda how I see it as well. I had to take a break from fishkeeping for the same reason and that is exactly what my Dad advised. Save your money for the important stuff and get back to the fun stuff after.

 

[Toby_H]

Kinda how I see it as well. I had to take a break from fishkeeping for the same reason and that is exactly what my Dad advised. Save your money for the important stuff and get back to the fun stuff after.

Really?

If the changes in the economy dissolved his job, which is how I read his situation...

There will logically be a period where he is gaining the knowledge, skills or experience to become similarly employeed...

Which means there will be a period of time where income will be less than before, but the expectation that thinigs will eventually be as they were before could be made...

So the guy is just supposed to sit idle without personal entertainment until then?

When other responsibilities such as marriage, children, etc get in the way of a hobby, by all means put that hobby off...

But when financial limitations interfear with entertainment, I highly suggest one look for ways to decrease the financial burden of entertainment but by all means continue to seek entertainment... If not despression will surely set in...


As several of us suggested... mature, respectful communication... that will tell you what the real problem is and will tell you if there is any way to gain a mutually pleasing conclusion...

But all in all... there are many perspectives here that I just simply don't get...

 

[clgkag]

As my parents saw it, and I do now many years later, if I had to live with them to get back on my feet I shouldn't have been spending money on fishtanks. I took the money I would have spent on the hobby and put it in savings. Not that I didn't do anything for enjoyment, but it wasn't an ongoing expense. Sucked to have to do it, but I got back on my feet quicker and can do what I want fishkeeping now.

That said if you are there because that is where the jobs are, I understand. Perhaps you could make a deal to pay for the added expenses. Hard for us to say without knowing the whole situation. Good luck.

 

[sick_lid]

i think were assuming hes young enough where leaving isnt really a option.

It doesn't matter how old he is, due to the economy he was forced into someone elses house, and now under their rules (no offense to the op).

I mean, he can try and talk to them about it, but arguing, or setting something up when they are not aware is just immature and irresponsible.

 

[buck_wildest]

just whine and keep saying "mommy, mommy, mommy, mommy....." if they start to ignore u. it seems to work great for about 90% of the kids i see in walmart....

 

[Plec123]

just whine and keep saying "mommy, mommy, mommy, mommy....." if they start to ignore u. it seems to work great for about 90% of the kids i see in walmart....

yes, but this guy is 21.
and when you see kids whining about fish in walmart, tell their parents that there are other, much better fish stores than walmart. thats what i do.

 

[Toby_H]

I mean, he can try and talk to them about it, but arguing, or setting something up when they are not aware is just immature and irresponsible.

I've seen very very few suggestions to take immature or irresponsible approach...

Most suggestions I've read were

A) Talk to them and see if you could work something out...

or

B) Do without it until you can move out...


While I agree with the fact "it's their house and their rules"... Since he isn't a little kid... there is no reason why he couldn't talk to the parents like an adult and see if there is some mature / rational agreement that can be made...


No one on this forum knows what his parents are thinking... therefore no one on this forum can speak for his parents... therefore I suggest he give his parents a chance to speak for themselves...


They may say, "no, and I'm not willing to talk abotu why"... and there's nothing more to be done at that point. But no reason to assume we are at that point prematurely...

 

[sick_lid]

Where in my post did I mention it was many posts? It was brought up, and I responded, just like you responded to mine. He is not a child, but if talking to them in any manner, doesn't work, that's the answer. He's an adult just like his parents, they can figure it out.

 

[Wulfonce]

Well... I just got done having a talk with my mom. The results were totally unexpected.

I explained the whole idea to her, tank sizes and placement, types of fish, how the stacks would take up less room, how flooding wouldn't be an issue, upkeep cost and potential profits ect. Her answer was "I dont mind as long as you help me get rid of all that junk" (ie, the desk and other stuff occupying the corner). I intended to get rid of it anyway.

Well that's a huge step in the right direction. I shouldn't have much difficulty convincing my dad cause he seems to like the idea. And as I said before, he was a fish keeper and breeder many moons ago.

EDIT: just to clarify, my parents and I are on great terms.

 

[Toby_H]

Great news! Congratts...

The power of communication at work ;-)