Paroon Shark questions

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wow, i've never felt honored and scared at the same time from any member on any forum before. :WHOA:

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but arapaimag, have you ever had paroons that weren't swimming at all levels and just at the bottom?
 
I see you joined in September so a belated warm welcome to Neoprodigy's MFK world.


No, like yours my Pangasius sanitwongsei swam at all levels at times and would even take floating chunks of herring/smelt from the surface occasionally. I did notice though that they preferred deeper water.

My observation of where (the level) fish swim in the tank is often done so due to the presence of undesirable or aggressive/abusive fish swimming in the level they would prefer to swim in.

I use minimal lighting and ambiant window lighting for both my bigger tanks. My fish prefer that. I use only 3 thirteen watt cfl's 24/7 when not feeding or making observations. Other lights are turned on as I need more to observe and off when finished.

Like yours mine enjoyed the current from the filter return pipes. Arapaimas do also.

The first shoal of 6 when they reached the 36" size and swimming at the 8 to 9 foot depth level and circling chunks of fish was one of the most amazing sights. Although we all know they are catfish they mimicked sharks in every movement.

The reason I moved them out of the 15 was because they were eating the Central american cichlids (which was OK) but the one that died did so because he took in a 13" (measured) Paraneetroplus formerly Vieja, formerly Theraps, formerly Cichlasoma maculicauda. Then was unable to swallow it because it was too big. He was unable to expel it because the rays in the dorsal stuck into his mouth preventing him when he tried to spit it out. This resulted in killing the P. sanitwongsei and the black belt.

Oliver Lucanus of Below Water ( formerly Biotope in the 1990's) visited me from Montreal a few days later and climbed into the tank after I drained between 10,000 to 12,000 gallons out and he caught the 6 remaining catfish, and his buddy from a Nature programming show in Great Britain placed them into the big tank. Oliver got nicked badly by a pectoral fin of one of them and mentioned how it bothered him over the next few weeks when he was exploring for fish in South America, where he flew to when he left my house.

pic#1. One of the fish from the second group just caught out of the 52 and placed in a holding 520g waiting to be picked up by a hobbyist with an indoor pond. The fish in the picture was an unusually aggressive paroon. He also was smaller than the 36" ones I had.

pic#2 Oliver Lucanus in the 15k.

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thanks for the welcoming!

just awesome!
how big were your paroons when you first got them?

i'm starting think the lighting, plus the location of my tank might be what's causing them to swim at the bottom. my tank's basically directly in the middle of my living room where it sees foot traffic all day and where the lights are usually all turned on.

plus a dog that runs around all day in front of the tank...

funny since my arowana doesn't seem to get startled at all.
 
mister2;4915068; said:
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how big were your paroons when you first got them?

i'm starting think the lighting, plus the location of my tank might be what's causing them to swim at the bottom. my tank's basically directly in the middle of my living room where it sees foot traffic all day and where the lights are usually all turned on.

plus a dog that runs around all day in front of the tank...

funny since my arowana doesn't seem to get startled at all.

I bought them at different stores in different years. In 1995 from Aquarium Asia (now Dragon Aquarium) 888 Dundas St Mississauga at 3" for $9.99. Also in 1995 from Arlington Pet shop 46-48 Beverly Hills Drive North York at 2" for $5.00. in 1996 from Coral Reef Aquarium 34 Paisley Rd in Glasgow Scotland at 2" for about $15 each (after conversion). In 1997 from Biotope Imports Montreal at I believe 2405 Leger in Lasalle, Quebec at 5" for $12.99. I also had one given to me by Ron a family friend in 1998.

The smallest was 36" and the largest 39" when the passed away in 2004.

The traffic in your living room is probably the cause of them swimming at the bottom possibly because they are scared. Your arowana seems to be able to handle the activity and that is good news for you.

Since the fish you bought are capable of achieving great size what are your long term plans for a suitable aquarium for them.
 
well, i'm living in seoul, south korea at the moment and I purchased these two paroons from a shop for about 20 dollars cdn each. they were in a 2ft by 1ft tank in seoul's 'animal market'.... they were about 3 inches when i took them home.

i have contacted a seoul aquarium about taking fish and they do take any and all fish. depending on what they are, and how big, fish will be kept there (coex aquarium) or sent to other aquariums around Korea (63 building, busan, jeju etc.).

they even pick up the fish themselves.
 
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