Peaceful midsize cichlids?
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Maybe you can help me understand my ph better. My local water report says it's 7.3. It of the tap it reads mid 7s. Out of the tank it looks over 8 to me. I have a couple chunks of mopani driftwood in the tank, stoney river aquarium sand, and a few rocks but they're not limestone or coral based. 
Geophagines are often the 1st to show signs of HITH if forced to live in water they have not evolved to live in. That said
The Geophaggus braziliensus group is one of the exceptions, because they are not Amazonian basin soft water cichlids, they come from further south along the coast in Brazil where water conditions are quite different, and are even sometimes found in brackish water in river deltas.
There is talk of actually removing them from the genus Geophagus, because of their differences
It sometimes takes until about 2 or 3 years of age for some Amazonians to show the chronic effects or the harder water bacteria that cause HITH.
This could be quite an interesting exercise. Both myself and
fishguy1978
have similar sized/aged chocolate cichlids. His PH, along with
Something Fishy Here
is quite high. My PH on the other hand is 6.5 to 7.0.
We both have threads on our chocolate cichlids and I think it would be a worthwhile experiment to see what happens further down the road. It'll never be a conclusive experiment, it's hardly done in a lab setting, and other factors may be at play too, but nonetheless I think it would be interesting to see how our chocs fare as time goes by.
Are you up for this fishguy?
fishguy1978
have similar sized/aged chocolate cichlids. His PH, along with
Something Fishy Here
is quite high. My PH on the other hand is 6.5 to 7.0.We both have threads on our chocolate cichlids and I think it would be a worthwhile experiment to see what happens further down the road. It'll never be a conclusive experiment, it's hardly done in a lab setting, and other factors may be at play too, but nonetheless I think it would be interesting to see how our chocs fare as time goes by.
Are you up for this fishguy?
Possibly, my choco’s aren’t listed for sale because I don’t want to give them up.This could be quite an interesting exercise. Both myself and
We both have threads on our chocolate cichlids and I think it would be a worthwhile experiment to see what happens further down the road. It'll never be a conclusive experiment, it's hardly done in a lab setting, and other factors may be at play too, but nonetheless I think it would be interesting to see how our chocs fare as time goes by.
Are you up for this fishguy?
I didn't mean to come off as dismissive the other day Duanes, I do appreciate oyur advice and highly respect your knowledge and experience. At the end of the day I do want happy healthy fish and get frustrated when i feel limited by my water and current setup. I still would like a little bigger fish than I know you would advise, but your advice does not always fall on deaf ears. I di get a red hump geo as opposed to several other options based on your information that they come from harder water sources. Anyway just wanted to say thanks for all the info and experience you share with us.
Maybe, since your water is higher ph and hard....maybe some West Andes species. Are you sure you just don't want to keep the Stalsbergi or Saums? I mean one at 8-10 inches would be a nice centerpiece for a 4 foot tank. Fish 12 and over mae a 4 foot tank look much smaller than it is imho. Maybe somebody will chime in with some alternatives from that end of SA.
I ended up scrapping and consolidating 3 x 4 foot tanks I had in my apt for 1 x 6 footer some years back. Although it opened up my options for stocking,...now I suffer from the opposite, not knowing what I actually want to keep in my single display tank. I have spent more time rehoming fish to other hobbyists than growing them out. Besides, being a colossal waste of money...it simply doesn't make me feel good...or responsible. Completely neurotic behavior, but it is something I am working on it. Family wants me to move to Florida and get a nursing job/house near Nokomis/Sarasota....at least thereI I can have a Pond or pull Mayans and Amphilophus out of the backyard creek lol. Good Luck my friend hope you settle on some fish!
I ended up scrapping and consolidating 3 x 4 foot tanks I had in my apt for 1 x 6 footer some years back. Although it opened up my options for stocking,...now I suffer from the opposite, not knowing what I actually want to keep in my single display tank. I have spent more time rehoming fish to other hobbyists than growing them out. Besides, being a colossal waste of money...it simply doesn't make me feel good...or responsible. Completely neurotic behavior, but it is something I am working on it. Family wants me to move to Florida and get a nursing job/house near Nokomis/Sarasota....at least thereI I can have a Pond or pull Mayans and Amphilophus out of the backyard creek lol. Good Luck my friend hope you settle on some fish!
I thought about the gt a long time and would be fine with an 8 to 10 inch centerpice, but from many threads on here i've read that once they hit 6 inches they won't be just the centerpiece, they'll be the solo fish and kill off their tankmates. I am old enough to know we can't always have what we want but my goal was to have a small group (4-6) fish with one centerpiece 8 inch, to 12, I'm not stuck on 12, but that was my upper limit. I definitely know what you mean though, only 1 tank and i don't want to keep changing stock and rehoming fish, I just want to pick some pretty fish and put them in and take care of them, grow them out and enjoy them.
